RE: Eclipse Data Tools Project
Your science is impressive... It reminds me of a French saying... Culture is like Jam, the less you have, the more you spread it ;-)... This will be certainly fun. The Eclipse Data Tools project is NOT an IBM-based project and Zachi is dealing with the group already... I think it's worth fighting for it, as you said it, it's just about finding the URL in millions of lines of code ;-). That's what's great about OS... jgp > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Michael Gumby [mailto:im_gumby@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 14:13 > To: jgp@jgp.net; jgp@iiug.org; zklopman@gmail.com; informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: RE: Eclipse Data Tools Project > > > > > >Mike, if it was that easy I guess Zachi or me could have done it ;-). > > > > I thought he did. That's why its a dead issue. ;-) > > >NetBeans -- what's that? The pale imitation of Eclipse done by Sun? > > > > Jean, you don't get out much, do you? :-P > > Each Java IDE has its own personality. While you're in the Eclipse camp, I > work with both Eclipse and Net Beans. If you look at Eclipse, you also > have > IBM's RAD 6.0 which is a *commercial* release of Eclipse which takes away > some of the pain that you are having with configuring Eclipse. > > Also Eclipse offers some free and some *commercial* plug ins in to its > framework. Some have value, some don't. (Note: The jury is still out on > Rational's Data Architect. ;-) > > > What I do like about NetBeans is the ease of building forms for Swing > applications and its layout manager. The look and feel is a bit more > polished out of the box than native eclipse. Also when I started to choose > a > debugger way back when, net beans seemed more stable. > > Choosing an IDE is an individual's preference. The only drawback is when > you > choose to use a "proprietary" framework. (One that's in one IDE but not > another.) Its like asking a professional photographer which is better? A > Nikon, Pentax, or Cannon ? > > >The Data Tools within Eclipse are a little weirdo to configure and I am > >pretty sure they have a great way to build the connection URL which is > not > >compatible with Informix. It might not be a lot of work, but they do not > >provide much debugging information besides the exception stack. > > > > Then Eclipse isn't such a hot tool. ;-) > > When working with the Java IDE, are you having issues with the data tools > or > are you having issues finding your JDBC driver and then building the JDBC > connection within your application? > Or are you trying to use a plug in to view the database and its > structures? > (These are two different tasks ...) > > With respect to debugging a URL, if you're having trouble with that... > well > then... have you tried "update statistics" ? ;-) (Seriously, you should be > able to figure it out without any hassles. Just System.out.println(myURL); > If you're not using the debugger. > > >Java is my friend and has been for quite some years now ;-). > > > > > >Which reminds me... during IDUG 2007, I will have a half day hands-on > >seminar on Java, how to build your first app, etc. Heavily using Eclipse, > >IDS (probably Cheetah, I cant use something else) and Java 6. > > > LOL... > > Now that's a scary thought. Oh well, I guess then its true what they say. > ("Those that can't do, teach. ;-) > > >I'll also speak of EJB 3, XML, etc. But I will not be the only one > speaking > >of Java at the conference. > > > > Thank god for that. ;-) > (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) > > Ok, enough of the jokes. Lets get serious for a moment. > Even though IBM did turn over the base code to the open source community > (Eclipse.org), they still have a lot of influence and they are still > writing > a lot of code and plugins in support of their Rational branded products. > > The fact that Eclipse doesn't support Informix out of the box is a > troubling > issue. Granted IBM SWG IM doesn't manage Eclipse, there should be some > communication over the hedges and somehow, somewhere IBM should take this > issue on. > > (HINT TO IBM: THIS ISSUE IS A "GLUE ISSUE" when it comes to the concept of > the "BLUE STACK".) If management at IBM doesn't grok that fact, then they > shouldn't be in management. ;-) > > But hey! What do I know? I haven't had my first cup of coffee yet.... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football Page > www.live.com/?addtemplate=football&icid=T001MSN30A0701