Re: Oracle and Partner Push "Informix to Java" Migration

Nils Myklebust wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:52:09 GMT, Mike Segel > <mikey@segel.NOSPAM-.KING.OF.MYDOMAIN.-NOSPAM.com> wrote: > > >The intergration of Java in to the engine seems to have taken > >a back burner. I didn't go to this > >years conference so I don't know if Informix did mention anything about > >J-SPL in 7.X product line. > Your estimates of what Informix is or isn't doing ought to be based on > a little more information than your own hopes or feelings. If you had > gone to the conference you could have known that they are hard at work > with integrating Java into the engine. It will be in the version they > now call 9.2 which is the version where the current 7.x and 9.x code > lines are fully merged. Whoa! Slow down dude! I said I didn't go, and I wasn't sure what they had planned. There was talk in '97 so I wanted to know more. Since it isn't released yet, it appears to have taken a back burner to other things. I wasn't aware that Informix intended to merge the code in to the 9.x stream. I thought they were going to merge the 9 code in to the 7 stream. That's interesting. > I don't remember exactly when they would have the first version > available, but sometimes this autumn/winter. It will be a great > product will all kinds of superb facilities for runing Java in the > engine both as Java objects and for creating datablades. Quite exiting > because it will open a large number of new oportunities for > developers. It will also not be dependent on one particular Java > Virtual Machine, but can be relatively easily integrated with > different ones. I wouldn't expect an option for anyone but Informix to > do such an integration, at least not initially, but it does mean that > as better JVM's become available, or simply new versions, it will be > simple to integrate them. > Multiple JVMs? Hmmm. Well, first there is only one spec for a JVM so that's a moot point. All JVMs must meet Suns specs. Just ask Microsoft. ;-) > >Informix was doing some Java stuff early on, however, nothing was > >formally stated until the > >Java One conference. > They did talk about the same thing on last years user conference, and > they have worked with it in the meantime. The Java One announcement > was only the first formalization of it. If you now claim this has > taken a long time, you might want to look at what have happened to > Java itself in the meantime. To come out with anything to run inside > the database engine before the timeframe they now plan would have been > a big mistake. Only now is the Java technology required becoming > available. Sigh. If you read my entire paragraph, the point I was trying to make that Informix jumped on the java bandwagon early. Heck there's even an Informix Press book on JDBC. Yes, I did see the DataDirector for Java. But I wasn't refering to that when I said that certain key projects were cut. Hint: There are some things that are not meant for open discussion. I don't know that these projects were ever openly discussed other than some minor PR blurb at their kick-off. > To me this is a conserted and long term planned effort within the Java > arena on exactly the right types and forms of products that Informix > need to come out with. Good work with other words. Sigh. I wish you would read my posts twice before commenting. My point was that Informix was involved with Java and smart card technology (which is heavily tied to Java) long before Oracle made its alliance with that software shop to convert 4GL to Java in an attempt to sway people from Oracle. I also stated that Informix did cut some Java related projects when Bob cut the budget. I don't believe that Informix has published their license revenue by product type. That would be interesting to see what products are having an impact on Informix's bottom line. Also, I haven't heard too much on the symantec/informix partnership. That too is interesting. Please note that I am not making a comment negative or positive on Informix. Just asking questions some of which will never be answered in a public forum. -Mikey -- #include <std_disclaimer.h> /* Mike Segel (MS385) */ #include <No_Spam.h> #ifdef OFFENDED_BY_CONTENT The author takes no responsibility for this post. Any resembalence to a coherent rational thought is purely coincidence. -The Management. #endif ***************************** * Attention * -*- Due to AGIS's Refusal to Act Responsibly -*- Due to ACSI's latest actions, they have been pardoned. [E.Spire] We are blocking all of their domains at the packet level. This block will exist until they modify their policies to conform to existing RFCs and net community standards. We encourage all ISPs and domain holders to do the same. *****************************