Re: IDS 9.x workgroup server
A poster evaluating IDS Workgroup Edition for bundling with their product (DataBlade support needed, fragmentation/CPU limits unimportant) asked how its price compares to full Dynamic Server. The answer: the difference is "huge," though WGS is licensed per user rather than per CPU, and SE/Online 5 reportedly cost more than WGS 9. Paul Watson quoted the licence terms (2 CPU max; no PDQ, partitioning, parallel backup/restore/load, ER, HDR, >2GB RAM). Michael Krzepkowski said IBM had since confirmed in writing a limit of four Intel 32-bit or two RISC CPUs; another poster doubted this, and the point was left unsettled. No actual price figures were given.
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rkusenet wrote: > > I am checking WGS for bundling with our product for small clients. > I checked from IBM site and it sure looks like it is still being sold. > Surprise surprise!! > It also looks like that datablades can be used with WGS. Datablades is > our requirement. Other restrictions like lack of fragmentation or > 2 CPUs only does not matter. > > Now comes the crucial question:- How much is the price difference > between Dynamic Server and Workgroup server. Huge -- Paul Watson # Oninit Ltd # Growing old is mandatory Tel: +44 1436 672201 # Growing up is optional Fax: +44 1436 678693 # Mob: +44 7818 003457 # www.oninit.com #
"Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in message news:3F7EA96A.8B4B2688@oninit.com... > rkusenet wrote: > > > > I am checking WGS for bundling with our product for small clients. > > I checked from IBM site and it sure looks like it is still being sold. > > Surprise surprise!! > > It also looks like that datablades can be used with WGS. Datablades is > > our requirement. Other restrictions like lack of fragmentation or > > 2 CPUs only does not matter. > > > > Now comes the crucial question:- How much is the price difference > > between Dynamic Server and Workgroup server. > > Huge But WGS does not support unlimited user license. It would be great if WGS goes for CPU based license for 2 CPUs.
<quote> The following apply to the Workgroup Edition CPU limitation for IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, and Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition CPU LIMITS. Licensee may install and use IBM Informix Dynamic Server Workgroup Edition and IBM Informix Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition on a maximum of two (2) CPU's. LIMITED COMPONENTS. Licensee is restricted from using the following Product functionality with IBM Informix Dynamic Server Workgroup Edition and IBM Informix Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition: parallel data query, data partitioning, parallel backup, parallel restore, parallel load, parallel unload, optical disks, Enterprise Replication (ER), High Availability Data Replication (HDR), VLM (ability to access more than 2GB RAM). </quote> Both SE and Online 5 are more expensive that WGS 9, but neither SE or Online have CPU pricing structures Paul rkusenet wrote: > > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in message news:3F7EA96A.8B4B2688@oninit.com... > > rkusenet wrote: > > > > > > I am checking WGS for bundling with our product for small clients. > > > I checked from IBM site and it sure looks like it is still being sold. > > > Surprise surprise!! > > > It also looks like that datablades can be used with WGS. Datablades is > > > our requirement. Other restrictions like lack of fragmentation or > > > 2 CPUs only does not matter. > > > > > > Now comes the crucial question:- How much is the price difference > > > between Dynamic Server and Workgroup server. > > > > Huge > > But WGS does not support unlimited user license. It would be great > if WGS goes for CPU based license for 2 CPUs. -- Paul Watson # Oninit Ltd # Growing old is mandatory Tel: +44 1436 672201 # Growing up is optional Fax: +44 1436 678693 # Mob: +44 7818 003457 # www.oninit.com #
Paul Watson wrote: ><quote> >The following apply to the Workgroup Edition CPU limitation for >IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, and Internet >Foundation Workgroup Edition > >CPU LIMITS. Licensee may install and use IBM Informix Dynamic Server >Workgroup Edition and IBM Informix Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition >on a maximum of two (2) CPU's. > This clause has been changed to max of FOUR Intel 32-bit CPUs or up to TWO RISC processors. HTH Michael > >LIMITED COMPONENTS. Licensee is restricted from using the following >Product functionality with IBM Informix Dynamic Server Workgroup Edition >and IBM Informix >Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition: parallel data query, data >partitioning, parallel backup, parallel restore, parallel load, >parallel unload, optical disks, >Enterprise Replication (ER), High Availability Data Replication (HDR), >VLM (ability to access more than 2GB RAM). ></quote> > >Both SE and Online 5 are more expensive that WGS 9, but neither SE >or Online have CPU pricing structures > >Paul > >rkusenet wrote: > > >>"Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in message news:3F7EA96A.8B4B2688@oninit.com... >> >> >>>rkusenet wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I am checking WGS for bundling with our product for small clients. >>>>I checked from IBM site and it sure looks like it is still being sold. >>>>Surprise surprise!! >>>>It also looks like that datablades can be used with WGS. Datablades is >>>>our requirement. Other restrictions like lack of fragmentation or >>>>2 CPUs only does not matter. >>>> >>>>Now comes the crucial question:- How much is the price difference >>>>between Dynamic Server and Workgroup server. >>>> >>>> >>>Huge >>> >>> >>But WGS does not support unlimited user license. It would be great >>if WGS goes for CPU based license for 2 CPUs. >> >> > > >
Michael Krzepkowski wrote: > Paul Watson wrote: > >><quote> >>The following apply to the Workgroup Edition CPU limitation for >>IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, and Internet >>Foundation Workgroup Edition >> >>CPU LIMITS. Licensee may install and use IBM Informix Dynamic Server >>Workgroup Edition and IBM Informix Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition >>on a maximum of two (2) CPU's. >> > This clause has been changed to max of FOUR Intel 32-bit CPUs or up to > TWO RISC processors. I'm not sure this is true. It used to be like that, but then they changed it to 2 of any kind of processor. Unless they've changed it back again...? -- Ciao, The Obnoxious One "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di cazzo"
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >Michael Krzepkowski wrote: > > > >>Paul Watson wrote: >> >> >> >>><quote> >>>The following apply to the Workgroup Edition CPU limitation for >>>IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, and Internet >>>Foundation Workgroup Edition >>> >>>CPU LIMITS. Licensee may install and use IBM Informix Dynamic Server >>>Workgroup Edition and IBM Informix Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition >>>on a maximum of two (2) CPU's. >>> >>> >>> >>This clause has been changed to max of FOUR Intel 32-bit CPUs or up to >>TWO RISC processors. >> >> > >I'm not sure this is true. It used to be like that, but then they changed it >to 2 of any kind of processor. Unless they've changed it back again...? > > > I had an official confirmation from IBM in writing about three months ago. Michael