Re: HELP! YEAR 2000 BUG: How will it affect you?

In article <53tsmk$gt0@dns.camcnty.gov.uk>, Dave Wotton <Dave.Wotton@it.camcnty.gov.uk> wrote: <snip> >Given the vast amount of cross-posting, maybe a comp.misc.y2000 newsgroup >might be a good idea! Well there is a Call For Votes (CFV) out for comp.software.year-2000 (see attached). Some of you may have seen this before in which case apologies are offered. -- AndrewV -- ....................................................................... | andrewv@io.org | Net.Cop.L2 (There is no Cabal) | LART-3D-MAGLIGHT | <.............................CUT HERE...............................> From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.cobol,bit.listserv.ibm-main,comp.admin..policy,comp..databases,comp..lang..cobol,comp..org..acm,comp..os..vms,comp..programming,comp..software..testing Subject: CFV: comp.software.year-2000 Followup-To: poster Date: 9 Oct 1996 18:29:23 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 128 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Expires: 31 Oct 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <844885760.24088@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: voting@hut.fi NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.software.year-2000 Xref: news1.io.org news.announce.newgroups:1007 news.groups:46715 alt.cobol:6121 bit.listserv.ibm-main:5009 comp.admin.policy:1076 comp.databases:7573 comp.lang.cobol:5410 comp.org.acm:543 comp.os.vms:17142 comp.programming:10313 comp.software.testing:4119 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.software.year-2000 Newsgroups line: comp.software.year-2000 Year 2000 compliance: projects and issues. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 Oct 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Miles Hopkins <milesh1@ix.netcom.com> Proponent: Butch Harrell <bharrell@dallas.net> Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi> RATIONALE: comp.software.year-2000 Many projects are now in progress for the purpose of converting computer systems and planning new systems to accommodate "Year 2000." There is a need for a dedicated online newsgroup for unmoderated discussion of technical, management, and legal issues related to the conversion of data processing logic to handle 21st-century dates - so-called "year 2000 compliance". A new newsgroup, "comp.software.year-2000" is being proposed to supplement the e-mailing lists and world-wide-Web pages which focus on "Year 2000" issues. Considering the high volume of traffic on the aforementioned mail lists, and the need to focus on selected topics, a newsgroup like "comp.software.year-2000" has advantages for many participants, because of its faster access and "thread" structure. Sub-groups may later be added for specific countries, systems, etc., if needed. The main idea is to provide a forum that will be easier to review than a mail list or Web page, as the volume of messages inevitably increases over the next three years. This structure may further evolve as needed. The new group is proposed as a member of the "comp.software" hierarchy because proponents and mentors found it to be the closest match, in terms of content, of all existing "comp." groups. CHARTER: comp.software.year-2000 This newsgroup will be open to all aspects of the year 2000 century conversion, including: * Project-management issues - suggested phases in year 2000 projects; how to get projects budgeted; experiences with "offshore consultants"; cost estimating; test strategies; contingency plans; checklists; expected staffing demands. * Technical discussions - year 2000 problems and solutions on various computer systems and networks. "What we're doing in our project"; suggestions on test setups for specific systems. Programming solutions. * Software tools - for inventory and/or conversion of affected code. Rating of/experiences with specific tools. Pitfalls to watch out for. Pointers to relevant products and vendor documentation. * Announcements - upcoming or recently published newspaper or magazine articles, TV spots, etc. on year 2000 issues. Notice of lectures, classes, conferences. * Legal and corporate-level year 2000 software issues - liability for problems, insurance coverage, officer/director responsibility, software vendor responsibility to customers. Language shall not be restricted to English. All posts shall be directly related to the subject of year 2000 compliance. Topics of a political, philosophical or religious nature shall not be posted in comp.software.year-2000. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@hut.fi Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on comp.software.year-2000 I vote NO on comp.software.year-2000 Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL and Delphi do not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which does exactly that) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -- Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi> Voting address: <voting@hut.fi>