Re: Announcing: The IBM Customer Advisory Council for Informix

Double Echo wrote: > Art S. Kagel wrote: > >> Goldrick, Jim wrote: >> >>> I agree. I signed up recently, but I am seriously considering that >>> was a mistake. Lots of chatter here. >>> >> Welcome Jim. Just do like the rest of us - ignore these long winded >> irrelevant digressions masquerading as important concern. >> >> Art S. Kagel > > > Or do like some of us other folks do, and ignore arrogant, pompous Arrogant? Me? Likely, at least occassionally, but I normally strive for aloof. ;-) Pompous? Never. > prima donna technicians who don't have any social skills, and think Technician I'll admit to, that's my job. You can't know me very well to refer to me as a prima donna, though, but I can ignore that as puffery to make a point. > the only thing that's important is SQL code or C-code or chatting > about patches or carrying on about their tools. My respect for Umm, that's why newbies come to CDI. Whether it's SQL, C-coding techniques, engine setup and tuning issues, the advice of those of us who've seen it already is the raison d'etre for this list/newsgroup. Let us not forget that and try to avoid crowding the bandwidth. Yes, discussions of subjects of mutual concern have their place here. I join them when I have something to say that I think makes a difference, too. However, I ignore discussions that just crowd out the primary issues. > you just flew out the window. Your contributions while noble are Any respect I have engendered here I have to earn. Your respect is yours to grant and yours to revoke. I'm not here for respect or admiration oraccolades. I'm here to help others use my favorite RDBMS, period. Do I appreciate the respect of others? Of course I do, I'm human. I even like it oftimes. I don't crave it. > only respected as long as you show respect for others. You just > crossed the line with such an arrogant, pompous attitude. Most of > those "irrelevant digressions" are every bit as important as anything But what you don't see in you own arrogance, is that these discussions ARE irrelevant. Not irrelevant in absolute, certainly. Not irrelevant in the larger scheme of the Informix user community, agreed. HOWEVER, they are irrelevant to someone like Jim Goldrick and others who just want to learn something about the RDBMS product they are using and who may have questions to which they need answers. In THAT context, the context in which I was (BTW) light heartedly commenting, it was irrelevant. > you have to offer, and I haven't heard a single word disrespecting Pardon me, but I NEVER disrespected any individual or group. I have little respect for what I perceive as endless digression that can have no useful effect. Complaining to us about IBM's marketing, or lack thereof, for IDS gets us nowhere. You want to make a difference? Talk to folk at IBM in and out of Information Management. I have. I will continue to do so. That's how we make a difference. Ultimately, after all of the screaming and bi*&^*%g that went on, that's how we finally convinced Informix to support Linux and it's how we finally convinced IBM that IDS was not a throwaway cash cow. Next project... > you or any of your contributions, or comments. <SNIP unworthy comment> I > expect better from you. I'll try to live up. With respect. Art S. Kagel