Re: IDS 2000 SOFTWARE
Mostly an off-topic flame exchange rather than a technical thread. It spins off from a complaint that Informix ships its downloads only in CPIO format (and a user's talk of moving to Oracle), with a QueriX representative pitching their Informix-4GL-compatible compiler as a way to switch databases without losing 4GL code. The rest is bickering over Usenet etiquette (80-column line wrapping, which the vendor agreed to observe), whether QueriX really supports recent Linux releases (the site said "Red Hat 5.0 and above"), and Informix's attitude to customers. No technical problem is actually resolved.
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Colonel Panic wrote: > In article <382BE82E.B311133C@querix.com>, > Mehdi / QueriX <mehdi@querix.com> wrote: > >With all respect Mike you have not read all Tim wrote. Tim who put the the question forward stated he > >was seriously thinking of moving to Oracle, I was just stating that if his applications are written in > >4GL, he would not be loosing anything by doing so. You think you have to convince him to use CPIO while > >you should be trying to convince Informix to provide other formats as well as CPIO, that would be more > >to Tim's liking. > > You should TALK? Your company hasn't even ported on any version of Linux > produced in the last two YEARS! (according to your web site, the most > recent mentioned is Red Hat 5.0!) > > Go away, little spammer... and learn how to use <= 80-column lines... Do not panic; your information is wrong. And a $.02 worth of advise use a proper email with word-wrap. -- Compliments of QueriX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QueriX 4GL Compilers are Informix 4GL Compatible. Some features are: True Windows GUI Clients. ActiveX support. HTML Report Generation. More rigorous error handling. Connection to other RDBMS such as Oracle. Connection to all versions of Informix 4GL with no need to change compiler. For more details visit: http://www.querix.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QueriX 4GL / Mehdi wrote: > > Colonel Panic wrote: > > > In article <382BE82E.B311133C@querix.com>, > > Mehdi / QueriX <mehdi@querix.com> wrote: [SNIP] > > Go away, little spammer... and learn how to use <= 80-column lines... > > Do not panic; your information is wrong. And a $.02 worth of advise use a proper email with word-wrap. Just a word. MANY of us use mailers that do NOT support word wrap. In addition, at home I REFUSE to downgrade from DOS6/Win31 to DOS7/Win9x and I cannot always boot into Linux (the kids use the machine too so I sometimes get only a few minutes at the keyboard) so I am stuck using Netscape 3.x which while it wordwraps on the screen if I print a message out it truncates at 80 columns. Why not just be considerate and a) shrink your window, b) turn OFF wordwrap in you own mailer as a reminder, and c) make a point, as I do, to manually add a newline to EVERY line you enter into a posting. I realize that you probably post even more than I do but you'll survive. Art S. Kagel
"Art S. Kagel" wrote: > QueriX 4GL / Mehdi wrote: > > > > Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > In article <382BE82E.B311133C@querix.com>, > > > Mehdi / QueriX <mehdi@querix.com> wrote: > [SNIP] > > > Go away, little spammer... and learn how to use <= 80-column lines... > > > > Do not panic; your information is wrong. And a $.02 worth of advise use a proper email with word-wrap. > > Just a word. MANY of us use mailers that do NOT support word wrap. In > addition, at home I REFUSE to downgrade from DOS6/Win31 to DOS7/Win9x and > I cannot always boot into Linux (the kids use the machine too so I > sometimes get only a few minutes at the keyboard) so I am stuck using > Netscape 3.x which while it wordwraps on the screen if I print a message > out it truncates at 80 columns. Why not just be considerate and a) shrink > your window, b) turn OFF wordwrap in you own mailer as a reminder, and > c) make a point, as I do, to manually add a newline to EVERY line you > enter into a posting. I realize that you probably post even more than I > do but you'll survive. > > Art S. Kagel Point taken, I will try. -- Compliments of QueriX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QueriX 4GL Compilers are Informix 4GL Compatible. Some features are: True Windows GUI Clients. ActiveX support. HTML Report Generation. More rigorous error handling. Connection to other RDBMS such as Oracle. Connection to all versions of Informix 4GL with no need to change compiler. For more details visit: http://www.querix.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In article <382FE887.F9A760C@querix.com>, QueriX 4GL / Mehdi <mehdi@querix.com> wrote: >Colonel Panic wrote: >> You should TALK? Your company hasn't even ported on any version of Linux >> produced in the last two YEARS! (according to your web site, the most >> recent mentioned is Red Hat 5.0!) > >Do not panic; your information is wrong. You're a liar. Quoting from your web page http://www.querix.com/platform.html: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Supported Platforms These are the platforms that QueriX is currently available for. ... Linux RedHat Linux 5.0 and above RedHat Linux 4.0 with glibc Other Linux variants may require additional libraries =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= and that's all, folks.
Colonel Panic wrote: > In article <382FE887.F9A760C@querix.com>, > QueriX 4GL / Mehdi <mehdi@querix.com> wrote: > >Colonel Panic wrote: > >> You should TALK? Your company hasn't even ported on any version of Linux > >> produced in the last two YEARS! (according to your web site, the most > >> recent mentioned is Red Hat 5.0!) > > > >Do not panic; your information is wrong. > > You're a liar. Quoting from your web page > http://www.querix.com/platform.html: > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Supported Platforms > > These are the platforms that QueriX is currently available for. > ... > Linux > RedHat Linux 5.0 and above > RedHat Linux 4.0 with glibc > Other Linux variants may require additional libraries > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > and that's all, folks. I invite you to calm down, have a quick look at: ftp://ftp.querix.co.uk/pub/ Read your statement quoted from QueriX site. RedHat Linux 5.0 and "above" Incidentally we have also customers running the product on suse . And you win a Free Copy Of ------ on Linux Redhat 6. -- Compliments of QueriX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QueriX 4GL Compilers are Informix 4GL Compatible. Some features are: True Windows GUI Clients. ActiveX support. HTML Report Generation. More rigorous error handling. Connection to other RDBMS such as Oracle. Connection to all versions of Informix 4GL with no need to change compiler. For more details visit: http://www.querix.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In article <3832BA00.6803A5E9@querix.com>, QueriX 4GL / Mehdi <mehdi@querix.com> wrote: >Read your statement quoted from QueriX site. >RedHat Linux 5.0 and "above" Which confirms exactly what I wrote: >> >> You should TALK? Your company hasn't even ported on any version of Linux >> >> produced in the last two YEARS! (according to your web site, the most >> >> recent mentioned is Red Hat 5.0!) Thank you. In any event, without stating supported kernel and libc/glibc versions, it's hard to tell what WOULD be a supported configuration...
Hey Alan, ( colonel panic ) Don't you think you've worn this one out??? :-) After all Mehdi was talking to *me* originally, then you piped up with your rant about their website. I didn't find his postings to be of any problem, more amusing than anything, and certainly he was simply offering a solution to a perceived problem. Sure it's a bit of enterprise, but Informix software as a general rule costs money too. How much more mileage can you really get out of it??? I have found over the years that companies like QuerieX exist precisely to meet the needs of Informix users and customers BECAUSE OF problems with Informix, most notably ATTITUDE problems that have resulted in customer demands not being met. Hat's off to QuerieX and all the rest. When Informix gets a clue and decides to get competitive with their products again, you'll have less time to chat here. By the way we're all waiting for the next download announcement--we really like 'em announced from Russia! :-) Tim Colonel Panic wrote: > > In article <3832BA00.6803A5E9@querix.com>, > QueriX 4GL / Mehdi <mehdi@querix.com> wrote: > >Read your statement quoted from QueriX site. > >RedHat Linux 5.0 and "above" > > Which confirms exactly what I wrote: > > >> >> You should TALK? Your company hasn't even ported on any version of Linux > >> >> produced in the last two YEARS! (according to your web site, the most > >> >> recent mentioned is Red Hat 5.0!) > > Thank you. > > In any event, without stating supported kernel and libc/glibc versions, > it's hard to tell what WOULD be a supported configuration... -- . .- .-- .--- .---- Tim Schaefer .----- tschaefe@bellsouth.net .---- http://www.inxutil.com .--- http://www.datad.com .-- .- .
Tim Schaefer wrote: > Hey Alan, ( colonel panic ) > > Don't you think you've worn this one out??? > > :-) > > After all Mehdi was talking to *me* originally, then > you piped up with your rant about their website. I > didn't find his postings to be of any problem, more > amusing than anything, and certainly he was simply > offering a solution to a perceived problem. Sure it's > a bit of enterprise, but Informix software as a general > rule costs money too. > > How much more mileage can you really get out of it??? > > I have found over the years that companies like QuerieX > exist precisely to meet the needs of Informix users and > customers BECAUSE OF problems with Informix, most > notably ATTITUDE problems that have resulted in customer > demands not being met. Hat's off to QuerieX and > all the rest. When Informix gets a clue and decides > to get competitive with their products again, you'll > have less time to chat here. > > By the way we're all waiting for the next download > announcement--we really like 'em announced from Russia! > > :-) > > Tim > Thanks Tim; Some people just do not get it. It was precisely the ATTITUDE of Informix towards my customers who had paid good money to Informix and were not getting any attention which initiated QueriX. And yes we will have lots of announcements to make. (Who is for Open Source Code?) -- Compliments of QueriX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QueriX 4GL Compilers are Informix 4GL Compatible. Some features are: True Windows GUI Clients. ActiveX support. HTML Report Generation. More rigorous error handling. Connection to other RDBMS such as Oracle. Connection to all versions of Informix 4GL with no need to change compiler. For more details visit: http://www.querix.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aw Tim, Come on, admit it, you really love Informix. Only someone you love could make you this crazy over something which qualifies as "molehill" in the grand scheme of things. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!