Re: Eclipse Data Tools Project

Jean Georges Perrin wrote: > Thanks Zachi, that's what I did to connect to the DB trying to browse it > ;-)... and failed. I have not tried to execute a direct query. I will try that ;-)... > Did it work for you? > ServerStudio is still better for the job! > That depends on the job. I use the eclipse to write and integrate with source control system. I copy&paste the code to ServerStudio to test it, and I also have a tty open to run dbaccess, since some things (such as partition names) are not showing in ServerStudio, and I really hate doing a query to systables (or worse - to sysmaster) just to get some information (although sometimes I have to do that as well, since running oncheck is sometimes overkill). and now, for my meeting with John Graham, the coordinator for the Eclipse DTP: 1) DTP is trying to grow a community of users (and developers). There are hundreds of direct users and tens of thousands (if not more) of indirect users: people who use Eclipse tools which use DTP (especially BIRT - the business reporting tool). 2) As part of the community building process, Eclipse DTP is happy to welcome all new users and their comments, bug reports, suggestions and efforts to build a better system, which will be available to all. 3) Eclipse DTP's current mission is a to build a *platform*, not a tool. What we see is more of a feasability demonstration than a real tool. John wishes it would be different, but with "a handful of part time committers" (i.e. developers), much cannot be accomplished. Sybase, Actuate and IBM, who are supplying the manpower, are intending it to be the basis for their future tools, and do not wish to invest too much in functionality that will not bring them direct commercial value - or worse, cannibalize sales of products based on this framework. He hopes that with growing community involvement (i.e. more volunteers or companies working with this platform) it can develop much further. 4) The IBM personnel who are developing DTP are NOT from db2 or Informix, and therefore, it is difficult for them to tailor it to these specific databases. (Same for the Sybase side). Moreover, since they are building a platform, they do not have the luxury to spend time to do the adaptations. 5) If we want IBM to help bring DTP to be Informix-aware and a really useful tool, we either need to do it ourselves or (better) ask IBM (probably via IIUG) to allocate some Informix personnel to the job. John estimates that an Informix person, fluent in Eclipse and allocating half of his time to this project, will be able to do that until the next release, scheduled for June. Zachi