Re: Install hangs on NT 4.0

From: "Bob Kline" <bobklin@idt.net> > >Axel Sander <axsander@okay.net> wrote in message >news:7tq9fq$4qv$1@bnews.gigabell.net... > > On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:19:48 -0400, "Bob Kline" <bobklin@idt.net> wrote: > > >Any clues? Is this a foretaste of this product's quality? A superb cheap shot. Excellent. >Thanks for the reply, Axel. I appreciate the time you took to offer some >advice infinitely more than I appreciate the quality of the Informix >product, at least at this point. Um. Is there any reason why you're installing PE and not a supported IDS port? Did you perhaps download the PE from iiug.org? If so, it *is* a beta version, and it's not actually certified for NT, AFAIK. It was designed to run on Windows 95. I don't even think it's certified for Windows 98. >The output of oninit -v shows the same hanging behavior: > >Initialzing DR structures... This sounds like it's trying to set up Data Replication, which I'm sure isn't supported ... Hmmmm Anyway, IDSPE was written around the time SP3 was around, and I'm pretty sure it's not certified, so you aren't exactly running into unexpected behaviour here. If you tried to install an SP3 version of IDS on SP5, you would have all sorts of problems too... >By the way, it would be difficult to express politely how unimpressed I was >by the fact that the installation procedure wiped out the entire System >(common) portion of my search path, replacing it with f:\\informix\\bin. I'm >sure I'll be discovering what that's broken for weeks to come. :-<} > >Any other suggestions, or is this "product" just a lemon? Another superb cheap shot. Why don't you fork out the readies for a commercial product instead? The right version of IDS for your NT service pack level? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Obnoxio The Clown <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7tsbj6$716$1@news.xmission.com... > > From: "Bob Kline" <bobklin@idt.net> > > > >Axel Sander <axsander@okay.net> wrote in message > >news:7tq9fq$4qv$1@bnews.gigabell.net... > > > On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:19:48 -0400, "Bob Kline" <bobklin@idt.net> wrote: > > > > >Any clues? Is this a foretaste of this product's quality? > > A superb cheap shot. Excellent. > Not so cheap. Perhaps you missed my comment below about the installation wiping out half of my search path. > >Thanks for the reply, Axel. I appreciate the time you took to offer some > >advice infinitely more than I appreciate the quality of the Informix > >product, at least at this point. > > Um. Is there any reason why you're installing PE and not a supported IDS > port? Did you perhaps download the PE from iiug.org? If so, it *is* a beta > version, and it's not actually certified for NT, AFAIK. It was designed to > run on Windows 95. I don't even think it's certified for Windows 98. > I purchased it as part of a publication from Osborne Press in order to determine how well it stacked up against the DBMS products with which I'm familiar. According to the publication, this is an NT version of the product. There was no indication that Informix doesn't support IDS-PE, nor that it was beta. It wouldn't seem in the company's best interests to release a version of its product which doesn't work. > >The output of oninit -v shows the same hanging behavior: > > > >Initialzing DR structures... > > This sounds like it's trying to set up Data Replication, which I'm sure > isn't supported ... Hmmmm > Don't know about that. It certainly wasn't doing this in response to any explicit choices that I made. > Anyway, IDSPE was written around the time SP3 was around, and I'm pretty > sure it's not certified, so you aren't exactly running into unexpected > behaviour here. If you tried to install an SP3 version of IDS on SP5, you > would have all sorts of problems too... > > >By the way, it would be difficult to express politely how unimpressed I was > >by the fact that the installation procedure wiped out the entire System > >(common) portion of my search path, replacing it with f:\\informix\\bin. I'm > >sure I'll be discovering what that's broken for weeks to come. :-<} > > > >Any other suggestions, or is this "product" just a lemon? > > Another superb cheap shot. Why don't you fork out the readies for a > commercial product instead? The right version of IDS for your NT service > pack level? Oh, I already own full licenses for all the commercial DBMS products I need right now. My database experience is with Oracle, SQL Server, and DB2, and I decided to find out how Informix compares with its competition for future reference. So far I haven't seen anything that would tempt me to "fork out" another nickel. At this point I'll give Informix the benefit of the doubt, assuming that: 1. what I bought may not be representative of their core product; 2. Informix made a mistake in letting this out the door; and 3. I made a mistake in buying it. I'll stick with what I already know. And who knows, perhaps there's some useful information in the publication. Cheers, and thanks to those who offered to help, Bob Kline

In article <7tsbj6$716$1@news.xmission.com>, obnoxio@hotmail.com says... [...snip...] > > Um. Is there any reason why you're installing PE and not a supported IDS > port? Did you perhaps download the PE from iiug.org? If so, it *is* a beta > version, and it's not actually certified for NT, AFAIK. It was designed to > run on Windows 95. I don't even think it's certified for Windows 98. IDS PE 7.22TC2-1 is certified on 95, 98 and NT, and the manual describes installation procedure on NT. But, there is no mention of SP 5, obviously. [...snop...] > Another superb cheap shot. Why don't you fork out the readies for a > commercial product instead? The right version of IDS for your NT service > pack level? Well, Obnoxio, I know you have your reputation to defend, but really, if you are saying that Informix sold us non commercial product, this is news to me. Hell, I'm calling our lawyers... > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Yeah, where would we be without it. Andrej Falout.