HP 11.23 Itanium Support increase
Kate reported that HP extended factory support for HP-UX 11.23 on Itanium to 2015, but no current Informix release fits: IDS 11.70 isn't certified on 11.23, and IBM told her 11.50 would get no further fix packs, which she considered effectively unsupported. She asked whether other users were affected, since IBM claimed she was alone. Dave Griffen confirmed he had also been refused an 11.23 Itanium build of 11.70. Art Kagel noted his Itanium clients were migrating to x86/Linux, and Fernando Nunes (IBM) argued 11.50 is still fully supported for PMRs and fixes even without new fix packs, and suggested upgrading the OS (11.31) before upgrading Informix. No resolution was reached beyond those workarounds and opinions.
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HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of factory support to December 2015. http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on 11.23 as of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not supported on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims that I am on the only one who is affected. Thanks! Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org International Informix Users Group Board of Directors The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus.
I know of customers running on Itanium, but on 11.31... Can't you upgrade the OS on that platform? Regards. On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of factory > support to December 2015. > > http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html > > This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on 11.23 as > of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not supported > on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims that > I am on the only one who is affected. > > Thanks! > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --20cf3074d592a89a9704c6b0d299
I have two clients on HP/Itanium but both are in the process of moving to x86/64 & Linux. Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of factory > support to December 2015. > > http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html > > This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on 11.23 as > of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not supported > on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims that > I am on the only one who is affected. > > Thanks! > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --047d7b339f4dd6b5f604c6b0e3ec
I re-read your post and I don't understand exactly the problem... 11.50 is supported (and will be for a few years) and it supports HP-UX 11.23. So you have a supported version. You don't get 11.70, but 11.23 is 8 years old and it's successor is around 5 years old... It would not make too much sense to have 11.70 supported on an 8 years old platform.... Were you planning to move to 11.70? Which version are you currently using? Regards. On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of factory > support to December 2015. > > http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html > > This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on 11.23 as > of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not supported > on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims that > I am on the only one who is affected. > > Thanks! > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --00248c7117c7e07bce04c6b13564
Kate Wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of factory support to December 2015. http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on 11.23 as of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not supported on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims that I am on the only one who is affected. Thanks! Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org International Informix Users Group Board of Directors The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Response: You are not the only one with Informix databases on HP-UX 11.23 Itanium. I asked for an HP-UX 11.23 Itanium build when 11.70.FC1 was released. I got little more than a reading of an IBM policy about EOMs and EOSs. I thought it was odd that while giving me that line they had 11.70 builds for HP-UX 11.11 PA-RISC fully available.
No I have been told by IBM that there will be no more Fixpaks made for 11.50. I my opinion, that is not supported. Thanks! Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org International Informix Users Group Board of Directors The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Fernando Nunes" <domusonline@gmail.com> To: ids@iiug.org Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: HP 11.23 Itanium Support increase [27953] > I re-read your post and I don't understand exactly the problem... > > 11.50 is supported (and will be for a few years) and it supports HP- > UX > 11.23. So you have a supported version. You don't get 11.70, but > 11.23 is 8 years old and it's successor is around 5 years old... It > would not make too much sense to have 11.70 supported on an 8 years > old platform.... Were you planning to move to 11.70? Which version > are you currently using? > > Regards. > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > > > HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of factory > > support to December 2015. > > > > http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html > > > > This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on 11.23 as > > of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not supported > > on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims that > > I am on the only one who is affected. > > > > Thanks! > > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** ** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > -- > Fernando Nunes > Portugal > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > --00248c7117c7e07bce04c6b13564 > > ***************************************************************************** ** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. ------- End of Original Message -------
Yes with a one year project to recompile all the code. You must work for IBM, that is exactly what they say. Thanks! Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org International Informix Users Group Board of Directors The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Fernando Nunes" <domusonline@gmail.com> To: ids@iiug.org Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: HP 11.23 Itanium Support increase [27951] > I know of customers running on Itanium, but on 11.31... > Can't you upgrade the OS on that platform? > > Regards. > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > > > HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of factory > > support to December 2015. > > > > http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html > > > > This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on 11.23 as > > of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not supported > > on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims that > > I am on the only one who is affected. > > > > Thanks! > > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** ** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > -- > Fernando Nunes > Portugal > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > --20cf3074d592a89a9704c6b0d299 > > ***************************************************************************** ** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. ------- End of Original Message -------
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > No I have been told by IBM that there will be no more Fixpaks made for > 11.50. I my opinion, that is not supported. > > I don't want to dispute your opinion... What it means is that the product will not receive further improvements on that version. It happens with all versions at some fixpack. You get full support in case you find a problem or simply need help. I really don't see any difference between this and the satus of HP-UX 11.23... supported, but with no improvements since they'll put the improvements in 11.31 or next version... Don't get me wrong... I just don't want other readers to get the idea that with 11.50 they would not be able to open PMRs, get fixes etc. (or in simple terms, get support). Regards Thanks! > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: "Fernando Nunes" <domusonline@gmail.com> > To: ids@iiug.org > Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:32:06 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: HP 11.23 Itanium Support increase [27953] > > > I re-read your post and I don't understand exactly the problem... > > > > 11.50 is supported (and will be for a few years) and it supports HP- > > UX > > 11.23. So you have a supported version. You don't get 11.70, but > > 11.23 is 8 years old and it's successor is around 5 years old... It > > would not make too much sense to have 11.70 supported on an 8 years > > old platform.... Were you planning to move to 11.70? Which version > > are you currently using? > > > > Regards. > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > > > > > HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of > factory > > > support to December 2015. > > > > > > http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html > > > > > > This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on > 11.23 > as > > > of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not > supported > > > on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims > that > > > I am on the only one who is affected. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > > > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > > > > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > ** > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fernando Nunes > > Portugal > > > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > > > --00248c7117c7e07bce04c6b13564 > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > ** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --e89a8ff1cb68b7656d04c6c4c928
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > Yes with a one year project to recompile all the code. You must work for > IBM, that is exactly what they say. > I think it's no surprise I do work for IBM :) In fact I believe you know I do. In any case, my participation here is personal, not official etc. Having said that I admit I'm probably biased... In any case this is a frequent and common issue that has raised a lot of discussion recently here. Where do you stop as a software supplier? IBM launched 11.7 in October/November 2010. HP, accordingly to your link stopped selling 11.23 on December 2010. Would it make sense to consume resources to test and certificate an OS that had 1 month "to live"? You'll probably say "yes, because I needed it", but I believe this is questionable. But I think you'll be able to manage with 11.50. Fully supported. Once you're prepared to upgrade your platform you can consider an informix upgrade. Regards. > Thanks! > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: "Fernando Nunes" <domusonline@gmail.com> > To: ids@iiug.org > Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:04:21 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: HP 11.23 Itanium Support increase [27951] > > > I know of customers running on Itanium, but on 11.31... > > Can't you upgrade the OS on that platform? > > > > Regards. > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > > > > > HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of > factory > > > support to December 2015. > > > > > > http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/history/slide2.html > > > > > > This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on > 11.23 > as > > > of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not > supported > > > on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims > that > > > I am on the only one who is affected. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > > > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > > > > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > ** > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fernando Nunes > > Portugal > > > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > > > --20cf3074d592a89a9704c6b0d299 > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > ** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --e89a8ff1cb6851738a04c6c4f8b8
Sorry to be snippy Fernando. I was trying to survey other users who had the same problem. Thanks! Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org International Informix Users Group Board of Directors The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Fernando Nunes" <domusonline@gmail.com> To: ids@iiug.org Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: HP 11.23 Itanium Support increase [27970] > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > > > Yes with a one year project to recompile all the code. You must work for > > IBM, that is exactly what they say. > > > > I think it's no surprise I do work for IBM :) > In fact I believe you know I do. In any case, my participation here > is personal, not official etc. Having said that I admit I'm probably > biased... > > In any case this is a frequent and common issue that has raised a > lot of discussion recently here. Where do you stop as a software > supplier? IBM launched 11.7 in October/November 2010. HP, > accordingly to your link stopped selling 11.23 on December 2010. > Would it make sense to consume resources to test and certificate an > OS that had 1 month "to live"? You'll probably say "yes, because I > needed it", but I believe this is questionable. > > But I think you'll be able to manage with 11.50. Fully supported. > Once you're prepared to upgrade your platform you can consider an > informix upgrade. Regards. > > > Thanks! > > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > > From: "Fernando Nunes" <domusonline@gmail.com> > > To: ids@iiug.org > > Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:04:21 -0400 (EDT) > > Subject: Re: HP 11.23 Itanium Support increase [27951] > > > > > I know of customers running on Itanium, but on 11.31... > > > Can't you upgrade the OS on that platform? > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Kate <kate@iiug.org> wrote: > > > > > > > HP has announced that 11.23 Itanium has an extension to the end of > > factory > > > > support to December 2015. > > > > > > > > http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases- media2/history/slide2.html > > > > > > > > This is great except for there is no Informix version supported on > > 11.23 > > as > > > > of today. 11.50 will receive no more fix paks, and 11.70 is not > > supported > > > > on 11.23. Is anyone else affected by this issue out there? IBM claims > > that > > > > I am on the only one who is affected. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Kate Tomchik [ kate@iiug.org ] www.iiug.org > > > > International Informix Users Group Board of Directors > > > > > > > > The last person to have this job was a Greek named Sisyphus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > > ** > > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fernando Nunes > > > Portugal > > > > > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > > > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > > > > > --20cf3074d592a89a9704c6b0d299 > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > > ** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** ** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > -- > Fernando Nunes > Portugal > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > --e89a8ff1cb6851738a04c6c4f8b8 > > ***************************************************************************** ** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. ------- End of Original Message -------