RE: Informix beats Oracle
I have to play DA here. I've put some time in with Orrible. It's not a bad database. Better at some things, not as good at others. I can understand the EULA and have not challenged it - recognizing that my Orrible knowledge is only good, not great. If you let just anybody benchmark your software against another package, then the resultant benchmark will be a product of that persons knowledge of the two products. How would Most Obie Wan feel if Some Random DBMS were compared to Informix and the tester chose not to update statistics for the Informix DB? I imagine h(w)e might poke a finger at the results and cry fowl. When some Database Agnostic type, with equivalent experience in both DBs is allowed to benchmark the two (or 7) databases against one another - with tests designed to highlight each databases strength, then it might be interesting to see the results. No dis-respect meant to Bell-Micro, I will read their results with interest. Purportedly this is the point of the TPC benchmarks - a standard benchmark in which all parties have a say, so the strengths of each should be displayed - and yet when it boils down, we are presented with meaningless TP/? numbers which measure the systems ability to execute the benchmark and are totally useless in the real world. j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Data Cruncher Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:23 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix beats Oracle <david@smooth1.co.uk> wrote in message news:1182119955.516908.315260@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > On 17 Jun, 19:10, "Data Cruncher" <dcrunch...@aim.com> wrote: >> http://www.informixcity.com/news6.aspx >> >> I am bit anxious to know the legality of this >> result. Doesn't oracle have a EUA about publishing >> benchmark results without their written approval. > > > I always wanted to publish benchmarks but Oracle EULA stopped me. The last time I took Oracle 10 training, the guy sitting next to me from Verizon Wireless told me that they datawarehouse application runs on SQL Server. Every year, like sessional allergies, Oracle pimps at Verizon start asking question "why are we using sequal server, we should try Oracle". But the DW folks are smarter than them. They have a canned queries when they run on two identitical databases (after allowing the oracle one to be 'fine tuned' by Oracle experts). Result: SS beats Oracle all the time and my friends colleagues tell them "Ok. this is your lesson for this year. see ya next year". _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
Jack Parker wrote: > Purportedly this is the point of the TPC benchmarks - a standard benchmark > in which all parties have a say, so the strengths of each should be > displayed - and yet when it boils down, we are presented with meaningless > TP/? numbers which measure the systems ability to execute the benchmark and > are totally useless in the real world. You mean like fuel consumption ratings or crash tests? Yet all sorts of car magazines and private folks test cars and publicly comment on what they do and don't like. For the record: My Focus sucks, it uses more gas than my Elantra and is noisy as hell. There I said it. Their is nothing Ford can do about it. I was not forced to sign anything but the invoice. Further I can buy any after market replacement parts and as a result a muffler is just priced as a muffler should be. There is something really funny about software that allows companies to gag their customers and prevent regular market forces from working by virtue of invoking "breach of license". Now, these are definitely my own thoughts (most importantly IBM has no beef with Ford I know of ;-). Although by edict from above IBM lawyers are forbidden to place a Dewitt clause on any software product and that is fine with me. If we can't defend our products just like any other vendor of any other thing, then that does not speak for those products. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab
Well said, no comment. j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Serge Rielau Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 10:22 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix beats Oracle Jack Parker wrote: > Purportedly this is the point of the TPC benchmarks - a standard benchmark > in which all parties have a say, so the strengths of each should be > displayed - and yet when it boils down, we are presented with meaningless > TP/? numbers which measure the systems ability to execute the benchmark and > are totally useless in the real world. You mean like fuel consumption ratings or crash tests? Yet all sorts of car magazines and private folks test cars and publicly comment on what they do and don't like. For the record: My Focus sucks, it uses more gas than my Elantra and is noisy as hell. There I said it. Their is nothing Ford can do about it. I was not forced to sign anything but the invoice. Further I can buy any after market replacement parts and as a result a muffler is just priced as a muffler should be. There is something really funny about software that allows companies to gag their customers and prevent regular market forces from working by virtue of invoking "breach of license". Now, these are definitely my own thoughts (most importantly IBM has no beef with Ford I know of ;-). Although by edict from above IBM lawyers are forbidden to place a Dewitt clause on any software product and that is fine with me. If we can't defend our products just like any other vendor of any other thing, then that does not speak for those products. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list