RE: Informix versus oracle
Dude, First you need to seriously consider prozac in your life. Quit being so defensive when people are not trying to attck you directly - they are just citing their own experience with manuals, and maybe other people. Second, I am sure not everyone here really cares for your resume. Just because you may have worked in the industry for many years does not heighten your qualifications or lend any weight to your argument. I have met many people new to the industry that have show a lot more maturity in their responses. I have no desire to cite my resume here, nor see anyone else's - I will say one things though. Of all the people I have met or dealt with, it is always the people who say they are experts in Oracle, or along those lines that tend to be the most useless in knowledge. These people like to put themselves on a pedistal and cite how brilliant they are above all others, and have to then prove their knowledge by posting their resumes, or experience, or even sit there and argue about Oracle just to make it look like they really know what they are talking about. I think it is great that you have so much experience - we can learn a lot from you at this point - ideas as how to avoid being a megalomaniac, becoming narcisstic, or having an ingrained fear of losing a few ego points. We were only discussing books, and you turn it into this kind of debate? -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Morgan [SMTP:damorgan@exxesolutions.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 9:44 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix versus oracle Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > Daniel Morgan wrote: > > > David Williams wrote: > > > >> "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@exxesolutions.com> wrote in message > >> news:3EE8E2A6.A64F6EE8@exxesolutions.com... > >> > > >> > ;-) has meaning. > >> > > >> > I have current copies of manuals for all commercial RDBMS products. And > >> > I > >> am > >> > unimpressed. > >> > >> What do you mean? The Informix manuals won awards! > >> > >> > -- > >> > Daniel Morgan > >> > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/extinfo/certprog/oad/oad_crs.asp > >> > damorgan@x.washington.edu > >> > (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply) > >> > > >> > > > > > My mother has won awards. I've won awards. No doubt you and just about > > everyone else has. > > I haven't. > > > But hand those manuals to someone new with a background in another product > > and see how productive they are? Look at all of the questions asked here > > at c.d.i. or at any of the other usenet groups about these products. > > Chances are, none of them have actually RTFMed. Another problem with using > the "background in another product" argument, is that vendors (Informix > certainly, at least) don't have a manual called "IDS for Oracle weenies". > If they did, I'm sure it would kill off this line of attack.:o) You appear to make two false assumptions. 1. That someone can not know two or more products well 2. That if someone teaches one they don't know another A fascinating lapse it would appear. In my 34 years in IT (started off on mainframes in 1969) I've had quite a bit of experience with many products: Among them Informix. That I teach Oracle at the University of Washington says more about the lack of interest in Informix than it does about my experience with Informix as an RDBMS your assumptions otherwise not withstanding. I could just as easily teach Informix if students had any interest in it. I was appointed as chairman of the Database SIG of the Washington Software Alliance because of the fact that I am familiar with, and work with, all major RDBMS products, and because I am vendor neutral. While you are standing here in a usenet group beating your chest saying 'what I know is great' you appear to not consider that it is possible that others might know the product equally well, perhaps better, and have a different perspective based on a thorough knowledge of Sybase, DB2, Oracle, SQL Server, MySQL, etc. A dose of realism is not a statement of preference. All of these products have strengths and weaknesses. Those that know a product a bit or know only one often feel threatened when someone has a different opinion. Those that know many products can also speak to what is right, and what is wrong with each. I doubt you have more experience with Informix than I do. Though you seem to have jumped to that conclusion with amazing ease. BTW: The speaker at the WSA Database SIG meeting in August will be doing a presentation on Informix and I chose the speaker and topic. How is that possible? Come to the meeting if you are in the area and find out. ;-) -- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/extinfo/certprog/oad/oad_crs.asp damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)