Re: Informix going open source????

Having said that, there is no reason why an ESB can't be just as annoying as an IBM SMB... :o) Rob Vorbroker said: > AMEN Brother... I totally agree with your assessment > of IBM's definition of SMB (S=100 Mill, M 100-500 > Mill). I guess I work in ES (Extra Small)= <5 Mill. > > AKA - Businesses with no/little IT Budget to speak of. > > Rob > --- Obnoxio The Clown <obnoxio@serendipita.com> wrote: >> IBM's definition of SMB seems to be anyone smaller >> than a mainframe site. >> That doesn't necessarily tally with what you or I >> might describe as an SMB >> site. >> >> So when they say they're going after SMB, it's >> probably code for "Oracle's >> biggest customers"... :o) >> >> Rob Vorbroker said: >> > While it's just my opinion but I believe that IBM >> is >> > trying to cover the SMB space (where a MySQL would >> > also play) with the DB2 UDB Lite version. Yes >> it's >> > cheaper than regular DB2 UDB but it doesn't have >> all >> > the bells and whistles of DB2 either. >> > >> > Now if you ask me (a self proclaimed Informix >> Bigot) >> > which engine is better, easier to use and maintain >> and >> > could be better leveraged for competition against >> > MySQL I'd push for SE or Online 5.2 (and 4GL, >> etc.). >> > >> > Several members of the IIUG BoD and several >> Informix >> > members of IBM's Gold Consulting program have >> brought >> > this issue up with IBM Senior Management in the >> past >> > with no or little results. Whether it's time for >> >> This is not the same as 200 customer end users >> badgering Janet Perna or >> Steve Mills. Or whoever else there is as a senior >> exec in IBM. >> >> > another go or not...GO. But in reality I don't >> expect >> > them to push either SE or Online 5.2 into this >> space, >> > at least not without re-branding to DB2 something. >> > >> > Rob >> > --- Obnoxio The Clown <obnoxio@serendipita.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Rob Vorbroker said: >> >> > You have to stop thinking like that. Now drink >> >> your >> >> > blue koolaide and take your seat. >> >> >> >> It is a good idea. However, IBM are not going to >> >> take it on board, unless >> >> you all get hold of someone senior (Janet Perna, >> >> perhaps?) and say the >> >> same thing. We as customers have been remarkably >> >> reticient about sharing >> >> our opinions with senior IBM management. Well, I >> >> know I have. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bye now, >> >> Obnoxio >> >> >> >> "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut >> >> fermer sa gueule" >> >> - Coluche >> >> >> >> "I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't >> get >> >> my head up my ass" >> >> - JCH >> >> >> >> "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di >> >> cazzo" >> >> - Marco >> > >> > >> > ===== >> > Rob Vorbroker Phone: >> 513/336-8695 >> > Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: >> 513/336-6812 >> > www.vorbroker.com >> robv@vorbroker.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________ >> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. >> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ >> > >> >> >> -- >> Bye now, >> Obnoxio >> >> "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut >> fermer sa gueule" >> - Coluche >> >> "I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't get >> my head up my ass" >> - JCH >> >> "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di >> cazzo" >> - Marco > > > ===== > Rob Vorbroker Phone: 513/336-8695 > Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: 513/336-6812 > www.vorbroker.com robv@vorbroker.com > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > -- Bye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche "I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't get my head up my ass" - JCH "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di cazzo" - Marco sending to informix-list