RE: Looking for a job...
"IBM is constantly looking at alternative ways to expand the business without limiting revenue potential" Can you provide a couple of examples to back this statement up??? -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Christine Normile Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:07 AM To: doubleecho@your.com; informix-list@iiug.org Subject: RE: Looking for a job... Duh - I'm very well aware of how MySQL works and their solvency concerns and their efforts to work with established RDBMS vendors to determine ways to become more profitable. Since IDS currently has no solvency concerns and IBM does not wish to create any, IBM is constantly looking at alternative ways to expand the business without limiting revenue potential. So no bill is required as no value was provided. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Double Echo Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:26 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Looking for a job... elanleblanc@yahoo.com wrote: > Double Echo wrote: >> ( IBM should be pushing Informix SE with PHP, and forget about 4GL. PHP _is_ the >> next generation 4GL. JGP maybe you should try to get onboard with IBM and get them >> up to speed with PHP/Informix SE ) >> > > Why with SE? Why not IDS? Cost? > IDS is too complicated to compete against MySQL. It's not even in the same ballpark. MySQL is an ISAM engine, SE is an ISAM engine. Both require very little to make them work. IDS competes with Oracle, Sybase, other shared memory products that require an advanced knowledge base to make them successful. SE uses the filesystem to create tables in ISAM format, requiring no dbspaces or special containers for the data. It is slightly more sophisticated than BerkeleyDB, another big owner of embedded databases that work at a more primitive level than ISAM, typically used for .htaccess password databases. MySQL is easy to set up, easy to use, compatible with a lot of implementations, both internal intranets and external sites like you find with Internet Service Providers who love MySQL, many who would offer Informix if it were painless to install, and the license is the same as MySQL. A typical MySQL ISAM installation takes 30 seconds, including putting the /etc/init.d/mysql start/stop script in place, and starting the daemon. There is NO license cost to set it up, install, and run MySQL. If you want support you pay for it. See www.mysql.com for support license costs. For example, ISP's install MySQL for the ease of use, relatively maintenance-free environment, 30-second install, and ISAM-tables that require only a mysqldump backup. Restores are quick-n-easy too. Very easy to admin. A typical ISP employs system admins that have to know very little to maintain MySQL, not to mention third-party tool providers like PLesk, Hsphere, phpMyAdmin and other web-based website management tool providers that make the process painless to administer using MySQL. They _only_ use MySQL because it's easy to put in place. You will find more sophisticated sites using not only MySQL, but PostGres, DB2, Oracle. But the website ball gets rolling with the TRUE embedded database, MySQL. MySQL is fast and integrates well with other database engines simply because it is non-intrusive on a system. When you get bigger datasets, then you get an appropriate engine. In the meantime MySQL owns that space. Developers have to have a no-BS offer to use a database engine. That typically means ZERO cost out of pocket. BTW, there are many ISPs who are even offering MS-SQL-Server for websites with an ISP license for those who just can't do without ASP. ( MS-SQL-Server/ASP is the stack for Microsoft developers. ) If you want to understand MySQL, go where MySQL lives, on web servers. What web servers? Apache: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/05/09/may_2006_web_server_survey. html If Apache is the number one web server, what are people doing with it: http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200604/apachemods.html > If a development suite were no charge (the tools and the database), but > production/distribution was where the cost kicked in, would more people > develop on that base? > Yes. If you want support you pay for it. But _YOU_ IBM must have a MySQL clone license if you want to go head-to-head with MySQL. Until you do that developers will question whether or not it is worth their time. You should include ISP's in your marketing so they can become familiar with something a developer would want to use. And you have to announce it outside the Informix family, it has to show up on slashdot, freshmeat, sourceforge, etc. Here's how it works. A developer buys a cheap PC, slaps FREE Linux on it, then downloads or installs the version of MySQL that they want. The license is completely out of the way ( free ), so the developer knows they can develop like a raped ape and make applications they know will work on practically any Linux box, whether it's on a corporate lan or an ISP-hosted system. Totally portable environment. Perl is also big in this space. Now that I've done your research I'll send you an invoice. > Christine > _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list