Re: IDS Next Version - features wanted - again widely on topic

Data Cruncher wrote: > "Serge Rielau" <srielau@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message > news:3h81u8Ffpla0U1@individual.net... > >> That's not what I wrote at all. But you do seem to read into things >> what you want to. >> IDS, btw as a lot more than simply stored procs and you know it. >> IDS runs on non Windows platforms (unlike SQL Server) ISVs are getting >> more and more wary of MS just they get of Oracle. > > > Really. I am curious to know which ISV are now pushing for non SS non > Oracle RDBMS to hedge against them. > > What I see is that more and more ISV are learning to be just 2/3 db > supporter > and no prize for guessing which dbs are those 2/3 db. Two of them are > mentioned > right in this post :-) > > I find little reason for ISVs to get into DB preference for anything > other than market > share. In my previous company we were an Informix only shop. The only > reason why > we went for SS was that a big customer was concerned that our product does > not 'conform' to industry standards. We had two options: Make our > product work > with either O or SS. As a DBA I gave enuf reasons on why trying to make > our product > work with O would be a disaster (without complete rewrite) and we > finally settled for > SS. > > Safeway - a well known grocery story on the West Coast migrated from > SCO/Informix > to Win/SS for the same reason. The ISV which owned the software saw > little reason > to support Informix on SCO. Bang. That's 1800 license seat gone. > SCO? Well, ... You may want to visit comp.databases.ibm-db2 and check out how many questions are asked there which clearly show Oracle and SQL server background. You won't find an ISV ditching Oracle or SQL Server - why should they? - but you see tons of ISVs _porting_ to get extra legs to stand on. IBM has teams world wide that do nothing but "ISV enablement". I.e. help ISVs port their apps. Again, how many open source vendors can afford to send out their employees to assist with ports? I do not know the IDS side of the house, but I do know what happens on the DB2 side. Given that this IDS "epiphany" ;-) is rather recent I suggest some patience is in order to see what good will come out of it. But the problem ain't the lack of ISVs willing to invest in non Oracle, non SQL Server support. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 SQL Compiler Development IBM Toronto Lab