Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} RE: Thinking Green.. yeah I know ... ironic... :-)

Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > MACH11. I guess you must have missed that. To be fair, it wasn't really > > heavily pushed. > > > Yeah. Be fair. Be honest and you'll get my point. ;-) I am honest. What's your point? > > > What major customer win that was IDS centric was last announced? > > > DB2? > > > > What is "major"? > > > Anything worthy of IBM spending the $$$ money to put out a one or more > pager. We get them all the time in the UK. > But that's the rub. IBM can't sell IDS. They don't know how and they > rely on BPs/Channels to move the product. That leaves a lot of white > space not covered or open to IDS. Well, yes, they can't. So plan B is to get the channel to do it. Would you prefer they did nothing? > > > So where is IBM? > > > Hiding and not visibly pushing IDS. > > > > Indeed. Perhaps they are shoemakers, sticking to their last and selling > > big-ticket deals and ELAs to Fortune 100 companies and leaving others to > > sweat the small stuff. > > > Oh please. Marketing folks don't get in to ELAs. S&D have deal makers > for those and of course legal. > (Yeah I've worked on a couple of ELAs and major deals ...) I'm sure you have. When you were cross-matrixed to EL&P and had a direct report to Jerry Garcia, right? > And to that point. What percentage of the aligned and integrated > accounts have IDS? 0.1? What percentage of the aligned and integrated accounts depend wall to wall on other IBM software, including DB2? > > > But hey! What do I know? I'm not at IOD listening to IBM > > > marketing/sales/tech critters tell you what you want to hear. ;-) > > > > Indeed you aren't. > > > Well, what can I say to that one. My wife keeps spending me in to the > poor house! Maybe that's why Stuart won't get hitched :-) > > > > C'mon people, grow a set and ask the tough questions! > > > > OK, why are you such a dickhead? :o) > > > Oh that's an easy one. > I have little or no patience for a sales/marketing force that can't sell > or market a product that is as well designed as IDS. Like Informix couldn't? > I could easily take a crack at you, but anyone who wears only a trench > coat and clown paint, well that's sad enough as it is. :-) > > Were I to even mention that restraining order that keeps you more than > 200 feet from any school or playground ... well that would just be so wrong! Hush! That was supposed to be our little secret. Do you want another sweetie? :o) -- Cheers, Obnoxio The Clown http://obotheclown.blogspot.com