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Continuing the HDR upgrade question, Fernando Nunes said the migration guide allows some minor upgrades without restoring secondaries, suggested 'onmode -b dummy' to hint at conversion, and urged voting for a feature request (rolling upgrades also exist). Benjamin Thompson recalled 11.70 to 12.10 needing no secondary rebuild, but Fernando said he imagined it. O Khan voted for the request and thanked everyone.
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It is documented in the migration guide.
In certain (minor) upgrades you don't need to restore the secondaries:
https://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/informix/v121/topic/com.ibm.mig.doc/ids_mig_2
60.htm
Problem is... how to know when an upgrade will do a conversion. Running
"onmode -b dummy" on the new version can be a start.
In any case, my personal opinion (big official disclaimer here) this is a
serious limitation.
If you feel this is important to you, add your voice to this feature
request (vote):
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=33794
My ignorance tells me it shouldn't be too hard to achieve. The feature is
currently classified as "under consideration".
This can be a very critical issue, specially for large instances that are
physically far away.
I have plans to prove a theory, but never had the time to do it:
1- Freeze the primary
2- Identify the changed pages since upgrade
3- Copy the pages to secondary
4- Start it with the new version
Finally, it's important to note that Informix has features to do a rolling
upgrade of a cluster without unavailability. I suppose we have customers
doing it, but I think it's too complex (not in terms of operator actions)
for big instances. But you should investigate if that could work for you.
Regards.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:02 PM, O KHAN <theultimateboy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Art for your reply.
>
> Do you have any idea if this thing about recreating the HDR,RSS using
> level-0
> archive is documented somewhere in the documentation.
>
> Also can you tell that what is the reason for this? Don't you think its a
> limitation of informix cluster?
>
> I will be waiting for your response.
>
> Regards,
> Omer Khan
>
>
>
>
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Fernando Nunes
Portugal
http://informix-technology.blogspot.com
My email works... but I don't check it frequently...
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Hi,
The manual is somewhat vague about when a rebuild is required and that part
documentation doesn't seem to have changed since at least the 11.50 version.
I recall from somewhere, although I can't find a link, that an 11.70 to 12.10
upgrade on a system with HDR does not require a recovery of the secondary from
a backup like 11.50 to 11.70 did. It would be fairly easy for me to test this
at some point. However, did I imagine this?
Ben.
You did :)
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:19 PM, BENJAMIN THOMPSON <
benjamin.thompson@bskyb.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The manual is somewhat vague about when a rebuild is required and that part
> documentation doesn't seem to have changed since at least the 11.50
> version.
>
> I recall from somewhere, although I can't find a link, that an 11.70 to
> 12.10
> upgrade on a system with HDR does not require a recovery of the secondary
> from
> a backup like 11.50 to 11.70 did. It would be fairly easy for me to test
> this
> at some point. However, did I imagine this?
>
> Ben.
>
>
>
>
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Fernando Nunes
Portugal
http://informix-technology.blogspot.com
My email works... but I don't check it frequently...
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I have voted for this feature and also asked my peers to do so as well.
Because, i fully agree with you that it is serious limitation and this should
be resolved ASAP.
Thanks for all your help and useful discussion.
Regards,
Khan
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