Re: No future for DB2 - slightly off-topic, discusses what people are being taught at uni

Neil Truby wrote: > > Speaking from my experience in the UK I find an even wider trend: in the > four years by consultancy has been going we've recruited several graduate > trainees. In 2001 and 2002 you could be pretty sure that most applicants > from university would have a pretty decent grounding in UNIX and/or Linux, > these being the platforms favoured by academia. We'd also find that most > would have done at least one hands-on course or practical assignment with > SQL Server or Oracle. > > We didn't recruit in 2003 or 2004 and this year has been a real eye-opener. > Perhaps less than one in five applicants has had *any* practical experience > of a non-Windows OS - if they know about UNIX/Linux at all it's because > they're done a theoeritical course lasting a most a couple of hours. Also, > the level of database theory has dropped too: asked to name a commercial > database system they name Access, which is the "database" that the majority > of them have hands-on experience of. A few had also used SQL (as they call > SQL Server, using the phrases interchangably). One or two were able to name > a non-MS database product, which was Oracle. None had heard of DB2, Ingres, > Informix etc. > When I was in school, which was a very long time (took me 7 years to complete a 4 year education of Advanced Informatics (which has little to do with witts, but more with the appealing student life ;)), I saw a very disturbing flow. When I started we were educated in Oracle, Unix (Solaris/Linux), Overall databases (isolation levels, ACID properties, Locking mechanisms,etc), Oracle/PL, Systems architecture, ASM/C++/Haskell, etc. But when I finished it (a year ago): Assesments, Projects, Learning to learn, communications, Windows, bla, communicating with each other, bla, java, a bit of MySQL ('create table' and 'select', enough to create a nice webpage able to show a shopping cart :'( ) etc. The school is setting loose coorporate hippies, with a lot of knowledge about working in project groups, but very little about technology. It has become a school for Projectmanagement instead of IT specialists. And this is not a single incident, it's happening all around here. (BTW, this is what's happening in the Netherlands). It's really disturbing. -R-

"Jurgen Haan" <jurgen@fake.dom> wrote in message news:42f1dc46$0$11064$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl... > When I was in school, which was a very long time (took me 7 years to > complete a 4 year education of Advanced Informatics (which has little to > do with witts, but more with the appealing student life ;)), I saw a very > disturbing flow. When I started we were educated in Oracle, Unix > (Solaris/Linux), Overall databases (isolation levels, ACID properties, The type of acid properties *I* studied at university didn't have much to do with databases!

Captain Pedantic wrote: > > The type of acid properties *I* studied at university didn't have much to do > with databases! > > *LOL* perhaps for the cmos battery in the DB server :) -R-