Re: There needs to be a free Informix Express
On Oct 2, 7:52 am, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: > "DL Redden" <redde...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:mailman.9.1222919998.874.informix-list@iiug.org... > > > > >> Sun has MySQL, Microsoft has MSSQL Express, Oracle has 10g Express. IBM > >> has DB2 Express-C but no Informix *free* Express. There is one but if you > >> actually wanted to use it in a small production web environment it'll > >> cost you at least $5,000 (due to PVU costs). > >> I find it frustrating to be a cash strapped startup that's designing a > >> website and not having the ability to build on Informix. I could build on > >> virtually every other DB out there and deploy to production with it, but > >> I can't use the one I'd like to build on because IBM doesn't like IDS. > ... > >> BTW, I'm aware that I can download IDS from iiug.org but it specifically > >> states that it's to be used for non-production uses. > > You're allowed to deploy the free downaloads of Oracle or DB2 in production > if you haven't got much money? Really?? Actually, one can use DB2 Express-C both for development and production legally, free of charge. Of course, without support and without fix packs. It has limitations on number of CPUs and memory (depending on version, 4 or 2 GB memory, 2 CPUs) but no limit of database size nor of number of connections to database. Even some advanced features like MDC are included. Darko Krstic
On Oct 3, 12:17 am, darko <darko.krs...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 2, 7:52 am, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: > > > > > "DL Redden" <redde...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:mailman.9.1222919998.874.informix-list@iiug.org... > > > >> Sun has MySQL, Microsoft has MSSQL Express, Oracle has 10g Express. IBM > > >> has DB2 Express-C but no Informix *free* Express. There is one but if you > > >> actually wanted to use it in a small production web environment it'll > > >> cost you at least $5,000 (due to PVU costs). > > >> I find it frustrating to be a cash strapped startup that's designing a > > >> website and not having the ability to build on Informix. I could build on > > >> virtually every other DB out there and deploy to production with it, but > > >> I can't use the one I'd like to build on because IBM doesn't like IDS. > > ... > > >> BTW, I'm aware that I can download IDS from iiug.org but it specifically > > >> states that it's to be used for non-production uses. > > > You're allowed to deploy the free downaloads of Oracle or DB2 in production > > if you haven't got much money? Really?? > > Actually, one can use DB2 Express-C both for development and > production legally, free of charge. Of course, without support and > without fix packs. It has limitations on number of CPUs and memory > (depending on version, 4 or 2 GB memory, 2 CPUs) but no limit of > database size nor of number of connections to database. Even some > advanced features like MDC are included. > > Darko Krstic Yeah but you get what you pay for. I think that a comment from a DBA who works for a very large IDS account put it succinctly ... "If there was a free version of IDS, we'd ditch the licensing and go with the free one." Yeah, IDS is *that* *good* that even a "dumbed down" version is still worthwhile. But we're talking about IDS vs Oracle and DB2 commercial versions. If your database needs were simple enough to use a dumbed down version of DB2, you might as well go with Postgres. If you need commercial support, you can always get licensing cheaper than you could for either Oracle, DB2 and alas, IDS.