Re: informix market share
Madison Pruet asked whether Oracle Standard Edition limits processors. DA Morgan quoted Oracle's limit of four processor cores. Serge Rielau challenged whether IDS can only exploit four processors and whether comparing IDS to Standard Edition was valid. DA Morgan said he only asked a question and wanted a feature comparison of IDS against SE and EE. No answer given.
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"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message news:1133072683.547964@yasure... > xiaoxin wrote: > > The list price of IDS is about 20% more than oracle EE. No one is > > more expensive than oracle, when it comes to database. > > While that may have been true in the past. And is certainly a > common myth today. It is not reality today as you found out. > > The truth, as I understand it, is that Oracle salespeople have been > told to NEVER lose a deal based on price. If a buyer pays more for > Oracle then the fault is entirely theirs. > > But wouldn't a more accurate comparison of IDS to Oracle be with > Oracle's Standard Edition? Also, I thought that Oracle Standard Edition had a limit on the number of processors in a multi-processor system that you could run it on. Is that not true?
Madison Pruet wrote: > "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message > news:1133072683.547964@yasure... > >>xiaoxin wrote: >> >>>The list price of IDS is about 20% more than oracle EE. No one is >>>more expensive than oracle, when it comes to database. >> >>While that may have been true in the past. And is certainly a >>common myth today. It is not reality today as you found out. >> >>The truth, as I understand it, is that Oracle salespeople have been >>told to NEVER lose a deal based on price. If a buyer pays more for >>Oracle then the fault is entirely theirs. >> >>But wouldn't a more accurate comparison of IDS to Oracle be with >>Oracle's Standard Edition? > > Also, I thought that Oracle Standard Edition had a limit on the number of > processors in a multi-processor system that you could run it on. Is that > not true? Here is Oracle's exact verbiage from their web site: Oracle Database Standard Edition may only be used on machines which have the ability to run a maximum of four processor cores or on a cluster of machines supporting up to a maximum of four processor cores per cluster. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
DA Morgan wrote: > Here is Oracle's exact verbiage from their web site: > > Oracle Database Standard Edition may only be used on machines which have > the ability to run a maximum of four processor cores or on a cluster of > machines supporting up to a maximum of four processor cores per cluster. So do you still stand by your comparison to SE? Are you alleging that IDS' multithreaded engine can only exploit 4 processors? Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 SQL Compiler Development IBM Toronto Lab
Serge Rielau wrote: > DA Morgan wrote: > >> Here is Oracle's exact verbiage from their web site: >> >> Oracle Database Standard Edition may only be used on machines which >> have the ability to run a maximum of four processor cores or on a >> cluster of machines supporting up to a maximum of four processor cores >> per cluster. > > So do you still stand by your comparison to SE? Are you alleging that > IDS' multithreaded engine can only exploit 4 processors? > > Cheers > Serge I didn't make the comparison ... I asked a question ... too nuanced for you? Still looking for someone to point me to a list of features included in IDS with a comparison against SE and EE so I can see for myself whether the comparison is valid. The arguments I've seen, so far, would make MS Access a reasonable competitor for IDS: No limit on CPUs. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
DA Morgan wrote: > Serge Rielau wrote: > I didn't make the comparison ... I asked a question ... too nuanced > for you? *lol* I quote: "But wouldn't a more accurate comparison of IDS to Oracle be with Oracle's Standard Edition?" Daniel, I may not be a native speaker, but I know the different between a question and suggestion. "Wouldn't it be accurate to say that you are a hypocrite?" .. not that I'm saying you are of course... ;-) -- Serge Rielau DB2 SQL Compiler Development IBM Toronto Lab