Re: database market share 2003
Not a technical problem thread at all, but an argument over 2003 database market-share figures. An IBM employee points to DB2's gains on Unix and Windows despite entering those markets late; others object that IBM's (and Gartner's) numbers are inflated because every AS/400 licence is counted as a DB2 installation, and complain that few Informix customers have actually migrated to DB2. A reply retorts that Oracle and Microsoft count their platforms the same way. The dispute ends unresolved, with no facts settled and no technical outcome.
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Serge Rielau allegedly said,on my timestamp of 31/05/2004 5:34 AM: > Unfortunately I don't have the Gartner report (The summary used to be > free :-(, But an interesting number to look at may be tracking the > Windows share. > IBM Entered that market with DB2 V5 I believe. The Unix market was > entered with the prior release. > For being the last one entering the game I think DB2 has been doing > quite nicely :-) Have they stopped counting all AS400 sites as "DB2 sites" yet? -- Cheers Nuno Souto wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au.nospam
Noons wrote: > Serge Rielau allegedly said,on my timestamp of 31/05/2004 5:34 AM: > >> Unfortunately I don't have the Gartner report (The summary used to be >> free :-(, But an interesting number to look at may be tracking the >> Windows share. >> IBM Entered that market with DB2 V5 I believe. The Unix market was >> entered with the prior release. >> For being the last one entering the game I think DB2 has been doing >> quite nicely :-) > > > Have they stopped counting all AS400 sites > as "DB2 sites" yet? > Did I talk about AS/400? I purposely referred to Unix and Windows. -- Serge Rielau DB2 SQL Compiler Development IBM Toronto Lab
"Noons" <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au.nospam> wrote in message news:40bb409a$0$3032$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > Serge Rielau allegedly said,on my timestamp of 31/05/2004 5:34 AM: > > > Unfortunately I don't have the Gartner report (The summary used to be > > free :-(, But an interesting number to look at may be tracking the > > Windows share. > > IBM Entered that market with DB2 V5 I believe. The Unix market was > > entered with the prior release. > > For being the last one entering the game I think DB2 has been doing > > quite nicely :-) > > Have they stopped counting all AS400 sites > as "DB2 sites" yet? Well, no, most assuredly they *haven't* stopped. Which rather makes the whole debate a complete waste of breath, doesn't it? If wishing were reality, IBM would have all Informix users moved or moving by now. But in fact, even the biggest die-hard is hard-pushed to name even a handful. That university in Carolina, or was it California, featured on the IBM website ... is that the only one? But in the best traditions of the ostrich, IBM management can't see the truth on this matter.
Serge Rielau allegedly said,on my timestamp of 1/06/2004 4:26 AM: >> >> Have they stopped counting all AS400 sites >> as "DB2 sites" yet? >> > Did I talk about AS/400? I purposely referred to Unix and Windows. > I repeat: have IBM (AND Gartner) stopped counting all AS400 licenses as DB2 installations? Couldn't care less what the other numbers are until this obvious fabrication is eliminated from their "market share" claims. -- Cheers Nuno Souto wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au.nospam
Here we go again. Has Oracle stopped counting UNIX or has Microsoft stopped counting SQL Server? Larry Edelstein Noons wrote: > Serge Rielau allegedly said,on my timestamp of 1/06/2004 4:26 AM: > >>> >>> Have they stopped counting all AS400 sites >>> as "DB2 sites" yet? >>> >> Did I talk about AS/400? I purposely referred to Unix and Windows. >> > > I repeat: have IBM (AND Gartner) stopped counting all AS400 > licenses as DB2 installations? Couldn't care less what the other > numbers are until this obvious fabrication is eliminated from their > "market share" claims. >
Here we go again. Has Oracle stopped counting UNIX or has Microsoft stopped counting Windows? Larry Edelstein Noons wrote: > Serge Rielau allegedly said,on my timestamp of 1/06/2004 4:26 AM: > >>> >>> Have they stopped counting all AS400 sites >>> as "DB2 sites" yet? >>> >> Did I talk about AS/400? I purposely referred to Unix and Windows. >> > > I repeat: have IBM (AND Gartner) stopped counting all AS400 > licenses as DB2 installations? Couldn't care less what the other > numbers are until this obvious fabrication is eliminated from their > "market share" claims. >