Re: Oracle 10G
Off-topic argument about Oracle 10G. Paul G. Brown challenged Daniel Morgan, who teaches Oracle courses, on whether his curriculum was Oracle marketing and argued grids differ from shared-nothing architectures for parallel query and fragment elimination. Morgan denied any Oracle influence on the curriculum; Serge Rielau and Obnoxio The Clown made jokes. No technical resolution.
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Daniel Morgan <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1078190246.555289@yasure>... > Paul G. Brown wrote: > > > You teach a university course on data management, and you don't even > > know the terms of art? > > We aren't discussing my "academic" definitions of these words. > > We are discussing those definitions as developed by marketing > departments. There about as many definitions of "grid" as their > are commercial implementations. > > Your definition of distributed hashing as only being of relevance > to shared-nothing architecture is nothing but the same. It is the > definition based upon a specific architecture: It is not the > definition based upon all architectures. So, do you tell your students that their curriculum has been developed by Oracle's Marketing department? Do they tell this to their employees? How much help do you think your course would be a student suddenly encountering the real world? You can't have it both ways. Either you are competent to judge a technology, and place an innovation into some kind of context. Or else you are simply a shill. A grid -- which might use distributed hashing -- is a very different thing from a shared-nothing distributed architecture. In the former it is very hard to see how any parallel query processing, or a trick like fragment elimination, might be achieved. But shared-nothing technology was developed precisely to support these query processing tricks. We retort. You deride.
Paul G. Brown wrote: > So, do you tell your students that their curriculum has been > developed by Oracle's Marketing department? No one at Oracle has ever seen the curriculum unless they are a student in the class. The University of Washington is a research university ... not a certificate mill. All curriculum is original and does not include even a single PowerPoint slide. -- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
Daniel Morgan wrote: >The University of Washington is a research university ... http://www.washington.edu/students/crscat/cse.html > not a certificate mill. http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/ http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_gen.asp I taught First Aid and Life Guarding at University of Kaiserlautern.... Cheers Serge
Serge Rielau wrote: > Daniel Morgan wrote: >>The University of Washington is a research university ... > http://www.washington.edu/students/crscat/cse.html >> not a certificate mill. > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/ > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_gen.asp > > I taught First Aid and Life Guarding at University of Kaiserlautern.... Explains a _*lot*_ about DB2. :o> -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche