Re: Informix business grew by double digits in 2006 (Q1+Q2)

Hi , Have you tried GENERO from 4SJs (www.4js.com) ? With minimal effort Grenn Screens canbe converted to Web/GUIs. The Sytanx of the language is more than 90% Informix 4GL Regards Terance Double Echo wrote: > Jean Georges Perrin wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- > >> bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Double Echo > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 02:57 > >> To: informix-list@iiug.org > >> Subject: Re: Informix business grew by double digits in 2006 (Q1+Q2) > >> > >> Jean Georges Perrin wrote: > >>> Cisco is a well known Informix user, isn't it Nancy? :) > >>> > >> How do you know Cisco bought Informix, and why does it matter? > > > > > > I think it matters that big, huge corporation choose Informix and admit it > > publicly. > > > > Wal-Mart made a video with IBM admitting its superior quality. > > > > Didn't see it. > > > France Telecom is make a speech at the Paris Infobahn in September. > > > > Didn't see it. > > > Cisco is hiring and sends people to conferences. > > > > Didn't see it. > > > And this is not news from the last century. It's all around NOW. > > > > Goody goody. > > > > >>> France Telecom is another... thus it is more an operator. > >>> > >>> Informix is doing well. Plenty of interesting deals are done, being > >> done, > >>> etc. IBM should certainly communicate more around that, but IBM is > >> IBM... > >>> jgp > >>> > >> Tell me something. How does a developer or consultant rally behind a > >> software product that few if any people know about? How does that work? > >> > >> Why should developers get excited or interested in something that they > >> are not sure there will be a future or be able to find work? > >> > >> Why should a developer support a product that the vendor is reluctant to > >> support publicly? Why is the burden of brand support in the market on the > >> developer community or existing customer base? Is the vendor just a lazy > >> slob? How does that work? > > > > I have a few friends working in the COBOL industry and they are making > > fortunes :). > > > > Developers do not care that much about the Back End, it's all SQL after all > > :). > > > You didn't answer my questions, but I didn't think anyone here would. > > Developers need a package that they can use to build software solutions. > > Again, I've said it too many times before, it's not the database that > sells the solution, it's the application. Informix databases were nothing > without 4GL. I remember pre-4GL environments, using CISAM. Nobody cared. > Then 4GL came out, and suddenly it got interesting. And suddenly there > was a lot of excitement about the database. Selling databases doesn't > work without applications. Nobody I know is going to get excited about > onstat. But they _will_ get excited about how fast their applications > run. Developers are the foundation--and I'm not just talking about coders. > I'm talking about application builders who want to make money in vertical > markets. They need a reliable database with speed, and something with > low maintenance and few moving parts for reliability--like the old Maytag > product line. As the application gets more complex, the database feature > set goes with it. But _today_ I can build most applications on MySQL, and > never need anything from an Informix database. I use portable components > that don't cost me money up front, and a database back-end that doesn't cost > me any money up front. Before I sell a solution, I ask where it will be > used, and if what I have will fit. I'll gamble on a simple database anytime > that just simply works. If the data set becomes a problem, I'll recommend > a faster database, port the application, and make more money. But until I can go > to my customer and tell them that the solution involves industry recognized > parts, I'm not going to gamble on it. Why should I do the vendor's job? > > > > > I don't see & recognize Informix in your comments here. > > > > That's because you don't think outside the Informix box. > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Informix-list mailing list > >> Informix-list@iiug.org > >> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > > > >

"tc" <terance.cambel@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1157351110.537830.159140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Hi , > > Have you tried GENERO from 4SJs (www.4js.com) ? > With minimal effort Grenn Screens canbe converted > to Web/GUIs. The Sytanx of the language is more than > 90% Informix 4GL While you're there, you could also look at GeneroDB, the RDBMS 4Js has "developed" as a competitor to IDS and its discouragingly high licence and maintenance charges.