IDS v7 -> v9 upgrades

Can anyone summarise the reasons why customers should do this soon? IDS v7 supports ends in April 2006. If I were an IDS v7 customer I'd see no great reason to hurry. I'd wait and see if IBM scraps the licence uplift cost as we get nearer the time. But I'd be interested in arguments to the contrary. -- Neil Truby t:01932 724027 Director m:07798 811708 Ardenta Limited e:neil.truby@ardenta.com

Neil Truby wrote: > Can anyone summarise the reasons why customers should do this soon? > IDS v7 supports ends in April 2006. > If I were an IDS v7 customer I'd see no great reason to hurry. I'd wait > and see if IBM scraps the licence uplift cost as we get nearer the time. > But I'd be interested in arguments to the contrary. Take advantage of the new features? -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche

such as? datablades? funnily enough i thought i might see a "benefits of a 7 to 9 upgrade2 on the ibm website, but i couldn't find one. "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c109np$1b94ga$2@ID-64669.news.uni-berlin.de... > Neil Truby wrote: > > > Can anyone summarise the reasons why customers should do this soon? > > IDS v7 supports ends in April 2006. > > If I were an IDS v7 customer I'd see no great reason to hurry. I'd wait > > and see if IBM scraps the licence uplift cost as we get nearer the time. > > But I'd be interested in arguments to the contrary. > > Take advantage of the new features? > > -- > "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" > - Coluche

Neil Truby wrote: > such as? > datablades? Functional indexes, better diagnostics, more parameters, bigger chunks, yadda yadda yadda > funnily enough i thought i might see a "benefits of a 7 to 9 upgrade2 on > the ibm website, but i couldn't find one. That comes just after the one they're working on called "Benefits of migrating from IDS to DB2". They won't start on the 7 to 9 one till that's finished. > "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:c109np$1b94ga$2@ID-64669.news.uni-berlin.de... >> Neil Truby wrote: >> >> > Can anyone summarise the reasons why customers should do this soon? >> > IDS v7 supports ends in April 2006. >> > If I were an IDS v7 customer I'd see no great reason to hurry. I'd >> > wait and see if IBM scraps the licence uplift cost as we get nearer the >> > time. But I'd be interested in arguments to the contrary. >> >> Take advantage of the new features? -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ''' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche

"Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c10l5u$1bm0ui$1@ID-64669.news.uni-berlin.de... > Neil Truby wrote: > > > such as? > > datablades? > > Functional indexes, better diagnostics, more parameters, bigger chunks, > yadda yadda yadda Well, this goes to the heart of the matter doesn't it? I seem to be the only person in Christendom who thinks that the big chunks thingy is a nice bauble, rather than the greatest thing since Lycra. As for the datablades, functional indexes etc, this all depends if you're likely to use them. Most of our customers don't.

"Neil Truby" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> wrote in message news:c10o64$1c20hf$1@ID-162943.news.uni-berlin.de... > "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:c10l5u$1bm0ui$1@ID-64669.news.uni-berlin.de... > > Neil Truby wrote: > > > > > such as? > > > datablades? > > > > Functional indexes, better diagnostics, more parameters, bigger chunks, > > yadda yadda yadda > > Well, this goes to the heart of the matter doesn't it? > I seem to be the only person in Christendom who thinks that the big chunks > thingy is a nice bauble, rather than the greatest thing since Lycra. > > As for the datablades, functional indexes etc, this all depends if you're > likely to use them. Most of our customers don't. My point being not that these aren;t all good things, but why do IBM think people will pay a premium to upgrade for them?

Neil Truby wrote: > Can anyone summarise the reasons why customers should do this soon? > IDS v7 supports ends in April 2006. > If I were an IDS v7 customer I'd see no great reason to hurry. I'd wait and > see if IBM scraps the licence uplift cost as we get nearer the time. > But I'd be interested in arguments to the contrary. > Technically there are LOTS of advantages. Besides all the new features and extensibility there is another VERY good reason to move: There will be an increase tendency to hit bugs/problems in 7.3x that won't be corrected (if they imply big changes). I'm currently hitting a problem (won't call it BUG because it doesn't seem to be identified) in HDR on 7.31 that apparently I can't reproduce in 9.3. And if you look carefully I think you'll see great advantages in several of the new features. And I don't mean the more "flashy" ones... Consider for instance: - Dynamic set explain - TAPESIZE 0 - Complete freedom to write functions in "any" language - HDR and ER simultaneous ... The point is... would you take real advantage of a reasonable number of this new features. And even if the answer is "yes" would your customer accept to pay for the beneficts? This last questions can only be answered by you and your customers. Regards.

"Fernando Nunes" <spam@domus.online.pt> wrote in message news:c1237k$1cu9kq$1@ID-161111.news.uni-berlin.de... > Neil Truby wrote: > > Can anyone summarise the reasons why customers should do this soon? > > IDS v7 supports ends in April 2006. > > If I were an IDS v7 customer I'd see no great reason to hurry. I'd wait and > > see if IBM scraps the licence uplift cost as we get nearer the time. > > But I'd be interested in arguments to the contrary. > > > > Technically there are LOTS of advantages. Besides all the new features and extensibility there is another VERY good reason to move: > > There will be an increase tendency to hit bugs/problems in 7.3x that won't be corrected (if they imply big changes). > I'm currently hitting a problem (won't call it BUG because it doesn't seem to be identified) in HDR on 7.31 that apparently I can't reproduce in 9.3. But if you've been running 7.30 UD1 for years without incident, what are the chances of encountering a new bug now?

Neil Truby wrote: > But if you've been running 7.30 UD1 for years without incident, what are the > chances of encountering a new bug now? Very little I suppose. But it depends on the change rate of your environment. My "usual" environment can be a lot of time without hitting something and suddently hit it. Note that you don't have to hit a "new" bug. You just have to hit any "old" bug ;) And for this to happen you just need to change something... But as I said, a customer which has been using an "old" version successfuly, and does very little changes in their environment won't feel any pressure to move... They can wait for the end of support... But nevertheless we all know that there are issues in the migration (and I'm not talking about bugs - these tend to be corrected -, i'm talking about different behaviours causes by new features)... So waiting until end of support can be risky. Regards.