Re: Workgroup Edition with HDR
"Jeff" <nobody@localhost> wrote in message news:4676ce6b$1@news.mcleodusa.net... > Does anybody have experience with v10 of Workgroup Edition? Now that HDR > is available as a Workgroup option, we are looking at saving a LOT of > money by migrating down from Enterprise. > > Is it the same core engine? Will I have the same performance? What besides > ER (which we don't use) will I be giving up? I started off answering this by saying confidentally that I think the code streams are identical, and that you are left *not* to use the precluded functionality on an honour basis. Certainly I just checked a PPA download site for one of my customers who has both Enterprise and Workgroup and there is not a separate download for the latter. But also I recall some while back being unable to allocate more than 4 cpu vps with a Workgroup download - perhaps it was the IIUG freebie. So now I'm not certain! Anyway you shouldn't use IDS in contravention of its terms because IBM has a zealous Compliance programme, as is its right. To answer your question: I have lots of experience in multiple customer sites, and it's fine so long as you can do without parallel backups and parallel queries. Typically then this favours small-to-medium database servers and OLTP applications. It might also be thought that 4 processor cores and 8g memory - the IDS v10 Workgroup infrastructure limit - is getting a little restrictive the way hardware is going. I'm interested to know how you'll save money by "trading down". You can't get a refund on the Enterprise licences you presumably already own.
On Jun 19, 5:59 am, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: > "Jeff" <nobody@localhost> wrote in message > > news:4676ce6b$1@news.mcleodusa.net... > > > Does anybody have experience with v10 of Workgroup Edition? Now that HDR > > is available as a Workgroup option, we are looking at saving a LOT of > > money by migrating down from Enterprise. > > > Is it the same core engine? Will I have the same performance? What besides > > ER (which we don't use) will I be giving up? > > I started off answering this by saying confidentally that I think the code > streams are identical, and that you are left *not* to use the precluded > functionality on an honour basis. Certainly I just checked a PPA download > site for one of my customers who has both Enterprise and Workgroup and there > is not a separate download for the latter. But also I recall some while > back being unable to allocate more than 4 cpu vps with a Workgroup > download - perhaps it was the IIUG freebie. So now I'm not certain! > > Anyway you shouldn't use IDS in contravention of its terms because IBM has a > zealous Compliance programme, as is its right. > > To answer your question: I have lots of experience in multiple customer > sites, and it's fine so long as you can do without parallel backups and > parallel queries. Typically then this favours small-to-medium database > servers and OLTP applications. > > It might also be thought that 4 processor cores and 8g memory - the IDS v10 > Workgroup infrastructure limit - is getting a little restrictive the way > hardware is going. > > I'm interested to know how you'll save money by "trading down". You can't > get a refund on the Enterprise licences you presumably already own. Niel, I think that with IDS 10 Workgroup, you can use parallel backup/ restore and parallel queries, at least acording to some Redbook I've read. It would be bad if there was a limitation of 4 CPU VPs. For example, with newer SPARCs, there is a need to allocate multiple CPU VPs per physical CPU to use all the CPU power available. Darko Krstic
Neil Truby wrote: > I'm interested to know how you'll save money by "trading down". You can't > get a refund on the Enterprise licences you presumably already own. > > The annual support will be cheaper. I don't really know if you can exchange existing licenses... -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently...