There needs to be a free Informix Express
Sun has MySQL, Microsoft has MSSQL Express, Oracle has 10g Express. IBM has DB2 Express-C but no Informix *free* Express. There is one but if you actually wanted to use it in a small production web environment it'll cost you at least $5,000 (due to PVU costs). I find it frustrating to be a cash strapped startup that's designing a website and not having the ability to build on Informix. I could build on virtually every other DB out there and deploy to production with it, but I can't use the one I'd like to build on because IBM doesn't like IDS. Just venting and hoping that some yahoo from IBM will read this and think "hmm.. Why do we have a free DB2 but no free Informix?" BTW, I'm aware that I can download IDS from iiug.org but it specifically states that it's to be used for non-production uses. I'm also aware that many free versions have limitations on them, I'm okay with that cause if the site get popular enough then we'd be able to afford licenses.
DL Redden wrote: > Sun has MySQL, Microsoft has MSSQL Express, Oracle has 10g Express. IBM > has DB2 Express-C but no Informix *free* Express. There is one but if > you actually wanted to use it in a small production web environment > it'll cost you at least $5,000 (due to PVU costs). > > I find it frustrating to be a cash strapped startup that's designing a > website and not having the ability to build on Informix. I could build > on virtually every other DB out there and deploy to production with it, > but I can't use the one I'd like to build on because IBM doesn't like IDS. > > Just venting and hoping that some yahoo from IBM will read this and > think "hmm.. Why do we have a free DB2 but no free Informix?" > > BTW, I'm aware that I can download IDS from iiug.org but it specifically > states that it's to be used for non-production uses. > > I'm also aware that many free versions have limitations on them, I'm > okay with that cause if the site get popular enough then we'd be able to > afford licenses. And then you woke up right? *<8o)
"DL Redden" <redden96@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:mailman.9.1222919998.874.informix-list@iiug.org... >> Sun has MySQL, Microsoft has MSSQL Express, Oracle has 10g Express. IBM >> has DB2 Express-C but no Informix *free* Express. There is one but if you >> actually wanted to use it in a small production web environment it'll >> cost you at least $5,000 (due to PVU costs). >> I find it frustrating to be a cash strapped startup that's designing a >> website and not having the ability to build on Informix. I could build on >> virtually every other DB out there and deploy to production with it, but >> I can't use the one I'd like to build on because IBM doesn't like IDS. ... >> BTW, I'm aware that I can download IDS from iiug.org but it specifically >> states that it's to be used for non-production uses. You're allowed to deploy the free downaloads of Oracle or DB2 in production if you haven't got much money? Really??
On Oct 1, 10:53 pm, DL Redden <redde...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Sun has MySQL, Microsoft has MSSQL Express, Oracle has 10g Express. IBM has DB2 Express-C but no Informix *free* Express. There is one but if you actually wanted to use it in a small production web environment it'll cost you at least $5,000 (due to PVU costs). > > I find it frustrating to be a cash strapped startup that's designing a website and not having the ability to build on Informix. I could build on virtually every other DB out there and deploy to production with it, but I can't use the one I'd like to build on because IBM doesn't like IDS. > > Just venting and hoping that some yahoo from IBM will read this and think "hmm.. Why do we have a free DB2 but no free Informix?" > > BTW, I'm aware that I can download IDS from iiug.org but it specifically states that it's to be used for non-production uses. > > I'm also aware that many free versions have limitations on them, I'm okay with that cause if the site get popular enough then we'd be able to afford licenses. First there is no *free* release of Oracle or DB2 when you hit production. Its the same with IDS. You can download a version from the IIUG and start developing. You can "pay to play" by joining the IBM developers network and get access to a lot of IBM software. Even MySQL in production isn't free, although Sun isn't actively pursuing a "true-up" campaign to collect untold revenues. So you have an option. Use Postgress, and run with it. As your site grows, migrate to IDS. Or you can lie a bit, and put a pre-production release of your software in to production and then when you're successful, you buy the IDS licenses. You wouldn't be the first nor the last where a "proof of concept" went live during a beta test. ;-) -G
In article <mailman.9.1222919998.874.informix-list@iiug.org>, DL Redden says... >I find it frustrating to be a cash strapped startup that's designing a website >and not having the ability to build on Informix. I could build on virtually >every other DB out there and deploy to production with it, but I can't use the >one I'd like to build on because IBM doesn't like IDS. yes you could deploy using other RDBMS from their free edition but u get no support. You have to pay for it. In other words some serious problem with the database, u better buy a new hot dog stand.