Re: "IDS 10.0 Cities Tour 2006"

Double Echo wrote: > Richard Spitz wrote: >> >> How world-wide is "Worldwide" in this context? Will there be such an >> event >> (ore maybe even more than one) in Europe or Germany? I surely hope so. >> >> I'm asking out of experience; "international" for many Americans seems to >> be somewhat limited in scope ;-) >> >> Regards, Richard >> > > Germans are somewhat limited in scope. How many other countries speak > German? > > Why is it that Germans feel the need to redub English or other movies > into German > instead of leaving them in English or their original tongue? It seems > YOUR country > is a bit more backward than ours, when it comes to culture, and thinking > international. > > Most of German culture thinks the rest of the world should think and > speak German, > when you're the only country that speaks it. Very arrogant, very > inbred. There are > still those among you that think Hitler was simply 'misunderstood' so > maybe you should > think outside your inbred German mind before you start mouthing off > about Americans. > You don't have a very strong work ethic either, prefering to be drunk > all the time. If you weren't a semi-regular poster I wouldn't grace this unprovoked and vitriolic tantrum with a response but here goes. Perhaps you should go to Germany if you haven't done so before and you might learn a bit more about a highly cultured, progressive and diverse county of 80 million people in the centre of Europe. You might change your views on arrogance, being in-bred, the work-ethic, how many Germans expect you to speak German even in their own country and especially on German attitudes to Hitler. It never ceases to amaze me how people can't restrain themselves to commenting on subjects they at least know a little about on public forums and so avoiding making fools of themselves.

Ben Thompson wrote: > > If you weren't a semi-regular poster I wouldn't grace this unprovoked > and vitriolic tantrum with a response but here goes. Perhaps you should > go to Germany if you haven't done so before and you might learn a bit > more about a highly cultured, progressive and diverse county of 80 > million people in the centre of Europe. You might change your views on > arrogance, being in-bred, the work-ethic, how many Germans expect you to > speak German even in their own country and especially on German > attitudes to Hitler. > Yes, everyone is a Dr. since they all get to go to school for free. ( probably not true but I want to illustrate how generalizations can work ) > It never ceases to amaze me how people can't restrain themselves to > commenting on subjects they at least know a little about on public > forums and so avoiding making fools of themselves. I've been to Germany, I own and prefer German cars, prefer German and Czech beer, and have German relatives. I took German language in grade school but must confess I don't speak it anymore. My grandparents were right off the boat, so I do think I carry a bit of weight on this. I've been to both northern and southern Germany, and my impressions will remain off this list. I have also taken classes in French, but again, due to the huge size of our country, and not much contact with the language have forgotten most of it--but did make the effort. Also have to use a bit of Spanish on quite a frequent basis, but again not much need for it. I don't start the flame wars, or put other nations down like I see the Europeans doing here on a pretty frequent basis. Don't make assumptions about US/Americans, and I won't call people a bunch of drunks or all of Germany a bunch of elitist Nazi scheiss. Fact is you have over 2000 breweries which is amazing, and there is a neo Nazi movement which is quite troubling to the rest of the world. US soldiers have done a lot of good for Germany, so don't forget that, and don't assume that we are a bunch of ignorants who don't know what international means. USA/America is a huge country compared to Germany. Germany is about the size of one of our states, so don't be so quick to compare your puny little country with ours. We import plenty of your products with great pride, and contribute hugely to your economy. Maybe you should write that down and not make ignorant statements. Keep your nationalist European elitist bullshit to yourself and I will do the same and not make sweeping generalizations. If you have issues with Informix put that out without digs to Americans, and you won't hear from me. We have issues with American companies the same as you, and we let them know our issues without getting all nationalist. Thanks, and have a nice day!

"Double Echo" <doubleecho@your.com> wrote in message news:I7Xwf.1989$Zh6.1175@fe83.usenetserver.com... > I don't ...put other nations down like I see the Europeans doing here ... > Germany is about the size of one of our states, so don't be so quick to > compare your puny little country with ours. :-)

Double Echo wrote: > I don't start the flame wars, or put other nations down like I see the > Europeans doing here on a pretty frequent basis. Don't be in such a rush to stoop to the level of the those you claim to so dislike. Imitation is rarely viewed as anything other than flattery. I, for one, think our government is doing a good enough job alienating us from the rest of the world and don't think it need your help. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)

DA Morgan wrote: > Don't be in such a rush to stoop to the level of the those you claim to > so dislike. Imitation is rarely viewed as anything other than flattery. > I, for one, think our government is doing a good enough job alienating > us from the rest of the world and don't think it need your help. LOL. Thanks for the heads-up. I forgot to mention that I also can read Russian very slowly--can't speak it. I studied it for an embassy duty position back during the cold war 25 years ago, and now with the help from all the spammers sending out spam written in Russian, my skills are improving once again! :-)

Double Echo said: > > I don't start the flame wars, or put other nations down like I see the > Europeans doing here on a pretty frequent basis. Yes, you do. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche did i mention i like nulls? heck, i even go so far as to say that all columns in a table except the primary key could/should be nullable. this has certain advantages, for example, if you need to insert a child record and you don't have a parent row for it, just do an insert into the parent table with the primary key value (everything else null), and voila, relational integrity is preserved. but this is, admittedly, a bit controversial among modellers. --r937, dbforums.com

Double Echo said: > > LOL. Thanks for the heads-up. I forgot to mention that I also can read > Russian very slowly--can't speak it. I studied it for an embassy duty > position back during the cold war 25 years ago, and now with the help from > all the spammers sending out spam written in Russian, my skills are > improving > once again! :-) Are you familiar with the term "cock-waving"? Please don't, it's very embarrassing for those of us who can't speak four languages and can't afford a BMW. Next thing you'll be telling us how much you earn. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche did i mention i like nulls? heck, i even go so far as to say that all columns in a table except the primary key could/should be nullable. this has certain advantages, for example, if you need to insert a child record and you don't have a parent row for it, just do an insert into the parent table with the primary key value (everything else null), and voila, relational integrity is preserved. but this is, admittedly, a bit controversial among modellers. --r937, dbforums.com

Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > > Are you familiar with the term "cock-waving"? Please don't, it's very > embarrassing for those of us who can't speak four languages and can't > afford a BMW. > I know how you feel! Doesn't the circus give you a car to drive? I remember the last time I was there I saw a clown driving a really tiny little car--a Mini--and isn't that company owned by BMW?

All - I'll clarify a couple of things about the "10 Cities Tour"....yes - it is initially targeted for the US, so I'll rename it "The IDS 10.0 United States Cities Tour 2006" for now. And this is for obvious reasons - I live here. (I DID just relocate from Colorado back to Indiana (to be closer to my 2 new grandbabies), but even with the grey skies all winter, it's still considered part of the US for now). One more clarification...there was this comment in the thread: ===start===== "...suggest that the IIUG make strong representations to IBM to ensure that the places visited are representative of the places where IDS is currently used, or where there are good reasons to believe that such a presentation will advance the cause of making Informix more widely known." ====end===== The "10.0 Cities Tour" is not being sponsored by the IIUG. It will be sponsored and funded completely by IBM and potentially some key partners - still yet to be determined. And yes, I am polling many within IBM and customers to make sure the cities we pick can attract a large number of Informix customers. The dates will be posted on ibm.com and a link to that from my website (www.markscranton.com). I am transitioning my website, so it might be down for a few days. Now - as far as "international coverage", I am all for trying to do the same outside the US. BUT - let's get the US covered first - or at least started - and then we can consider duplicating outside the US. Keep in mind though that I will really depend on folks like Neil (Truby), David Fraser, JGP.Paul Watson and others for input on target cities. Thanks - Mark Scranton IBM Informix Worldwide Team mark.scranton@us.ibm.com www.markscranton.com

mark.scranton@gmail.com wrote > All - > > I'll clarify a couple of things about the "10 Cities Tour"....yes - it > is initially targeted for the US, so I'll rename it "The IDS 10.0 > United States Cities Tour 2006" for now. Dang it. Never mind. Next time perhaps. But remember, "Kiwi's can fly". Be good David