This is why you'll never convince IBM that they're doing something wrong ...
"Revenues for Information Management software, which enables clients to leverage information on demand, increased 30 percent." Straight from the IBM Press Release on the Q2 financials. As I said earlier.... If IBM executive management thinks that they should have revenues of X for IDS, and you constantly deliver 120% of X, they are going to be fat dumb and happy. Even though you and everyone else who uses IDS knows that IBM could/should sell 2-3X by just putting some thought behind their actions. Truth be told, I'll wager that IBM IM execs are afraid to release a benchmark of IDS or to have their sales force start selling it to new non-IDS customers. It would be an embarrassment to the old guard. Having said that... I wait for Serge to ignore the tongue 'n cheek and claim that I'm a conspiracy nut. :-) -G _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > Having said that... I wait for Serge to ignore the tongue 'n cheek and > claim that I'm a conspiracy nut. :-) You missed the part about the 6M TpmC. First time I heard TPC-C make it all the way up to a quarterly call (with a bit of HP bashing...) He also noted that "distributed relational" (that's IDS + DB2 for LUW) grew >30% Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab
On Jul 17, 8:50 pm, Serge Rielau <srie...@ca.ibm.com> wrote: > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > Having said that... I wait for Serge to ignore the tongue 'n cheek and > > claim that I'm a conspiracy nut. :-) > > You missed the part about the 6M TpmC. First time I heard TPC-C make it > all the way up to a quarterly call (with a bit of HP bashing...) > > He also noted that "distributed relational" (that's IDS + DB2 for LUW) > grew >30% > Sorry didn't get on the call. I just quoted what was printed at the IBM web site. And wow. Build a large enough machine and even pigs will fly. Now why don't you back that number up with a run of Informix on the same hardware configuration. Now that would show the world what IDS is all about. Of course if what you said is true, its a sign that DB2 is the boat anchor keeping IDS down. :-P Why doesn't IBM Hardware fill up a blade system with those Cell chip based boards and then do a benchmark using a *real* database? (If you can port IDS to the playstation, it will run on a cell based blade card. -G
On 18 Jul., 00:58, Ian Michael Gumby <im_gu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > "Revenues for Information Management software, which enables clients to leverage information on demand, increased 30 percent." > > Straight from the IBM Press Release on the Q2 financials. > > As I said earlier.... > > If IBM executive management thinks that they should have revenues of X for IDS, and you constantly deliver 120% of X, they are going to be fat dumb and happy. Even though you and everyone else who uses IDS knows that IBM could/should sell 2-3X by just putting some thought behind their actions. > "...putting some thought behind their actions" is a good catchword. Take a look at the following PDF document on the InformixCity website which is an official document from the WW Information Management Portfolio Manager at IBM IM and shows IBM offerings for the midmarket: http://www.informixcity.com/cms/templates/?a=213 I just couldn't believe what I read there. For DB2 Express: "DB2 Express 9 is ideal for Business Partners (BPs) embedding it in their applications or reselling it as part of their market-ready solutions for small and medium business that do not want the expense of a Database Administrator (DBA) and require everyday data server operations be easy or automatic." For IDS Express: "IBM's offering: Informix Dynamic Server offers superior high availability disaster recovery and enterprise replication functionality, with overall lower DBA workloads." Nothing to read about BP's and embedded/integrated for IDS. I thought IDS is IBM's premier offering for integrated/embedded solutions or is there already another new positioning done by IBM to confuse customers, BP's and ISV's even more ? The document is from June 2008, so pretty current. The other thing that comes to my mind is that IDS Express doesn't even support the praised ER, HDR, SDS or RSS functionality: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm-0801doe/index.html?ca=drs-&ca=dkw-informix This demonstrates that even the IBM WW IM portfolio manager doesn't understand it's own portfolio and how to position the products correctly. How should customers, BP's and ISV's understand it ? IBM get your homework done ! Gumby is right: IBM would be able to sell much more of IDS if: - They wouldn't try to press into a niche (integrated/embedded) and even fail to do that correctly. IDS is versatile and can be used in many different environments including the datawarehouse space - They would advertise/merchandise the Informix brand (the old 'Informix logo') and produce materials like cups, t-shirts, pencils containing the logo - They would educate their own sales personal so that they are able to choose the right weapon against the competition (which is in many cases not DB2 LUW) - They would certify technical sales specialists on IDS, so that they are able to support the sales team and recommend the right product depending on the customer needs - They would bring up an university program for IDS with a dedicated team travelling around the world and teaching and promoting IDS like it is done for DB2 LUW - They would publish a TPC-E benchmark proofing the point that IDS is the optimal data server for high end OLTP - They would create a real developer program focussed exclusively on IDS There is room is even room for more.