Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710
Someone planning to retire a Sun Sunfire V490 (8 SPARC cores, 16GB) running Informix 9/10 asked how a Dell R710 (8 cores, 16GB, Informix 11.70) on the same SAN would compare in performance. Art Kagel answered that trading ~2.1GHz SPARC for 3-3.5GHz Intel chips should make the new box significantly faster, and that modern x86/64 Linux servers compete well with anything except very high-end (hundreds of cores) Sun/HP/IBM P-series systems. Side chat noted that most Informix discussion had moved to the IIUG IDS forum.
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Hi folks, I was wondering if someone could shed light on the relative performance of a Sun Sunfire V490 with 16Gb and 8-CPU (4 x 2-core chips I'm guessing) in comparison with a Dell R710 with, let's say the same 16Gb and also 8 cores. The Sun needs replacing and the R710 is put forward as an option. The Sun is currently against a big fat SAN, and the Dell will hook into the same. The boxes are purely for Informix engines; previous is V9's and 10's on the Sun, and the Dells will have 11.70 The Suns are coping acceptably with their load, averaging around 20% CPU idle across all the cores, so there's no obvious need to significantly outgun their performances. Any clues about relative performance as a replacement would be most welcome. Cheers PS hey guys, how are you all these days? Gainfully and happily employed I hope?
You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel processors. The new machine should be significantly faster. Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Andrew Hamm <ahamm@mail.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I was wondering if someone could shed light on the relative > performance of a Sun Sunfire V490 with 16Gb and 8-CPU (4 x 2-core > chips I'm guessing) in comparison with a Dell R710 with, let's say the > same 16Gb and also 8 cores. > > The Sun needs replacing and the R710 is put forward as an option. The > Sun is currently against a big fat SAN, and the Dell will hook into > the same. > > The boxes are purely for Informix engines; previous is V9's and 10's > on the Sun, and the Dells will have 11.70 The Suns are coping > acceptably with their load, averaging around 20% CPU idle across all > the cores, so there's no obvious need to significantly outgun their > performances. > > Any clues about relative performance as a replacement would be most > welcome. > > Cheers > > PS hey guys, how are you all these days? Gainfully and happily > employed I hope? > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >
On Oct 27, 6:17 pm, Art Kagel <art.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: > You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel > processors. The new machine should be significantly faster. > > Art > > Art S. Kagel Thanks for the speedy reply. I was expecting at least a factor of a few between the Intel/PC based architecture and any Sun server. The intel boxes really compete on equal footings these days? I'm a bit surprised... So where's everybody these days? Traffic looks very light, and not a Clown or Gumby to be seen - at least on the first page. Is Usenet past it's use-by date? Where's all the Informix forum action now?
I get far more posts from the IIUG's IDS list, maybe on the order of 20-1. --EEM >-----Original Message----- >From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- >bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hamm >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:02 AM >To: informix-list@iiug.org >Subject: Re: Relative grunt of Sunfire V490 vs. Dell R710 > >On Oct 27, 6:17 pm, Art Kagel <art.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: >> You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel >> processors. The new machine should be significantly faster. >> >> Art >> >> Art S. Kagel > >Thanks for the speedy reply. I was expecting at least a factor of a few >between the Intel/PC based architecture and any Sun server. The intel >boxes really compete on equal footings these days? I'm a bit >surprised... > >So where's everybody these days? Traffic looks very light, and not a >Clown or Gumby to be seen - at least on the first page. Is Usenet past >it's use-by date? Where's all the Informix forum action now? >_______________________________________________ >Informix-list mailing list >Informix-list@iiug.org >http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
Several folk, including most of the IBMers are here at IOD and most of the traffic is now on the IIUG IDS forum (about 1000 posts/month). Yes, modern Intel x86/64 boxes running Linux can compete favorably with anything else out there. Only at the top end w/100s of cores do the Sun, HP, and IBM P-series machines exceed their capacity. Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Andrew Hamm <ahamm@mail.com> wrote: > On Oct 27, 6:17 pm, Art Kagel <art.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You will be trading 2.1GHZ SPARC processors for 3 or 3.5 GHZ Intel > > processors. The new machine should be significantly faster. > > > > Art > > > > Art S. Kagel > > Thanks for the speedy reply. I was expecting at least a factor of a > few between the Intel/PC based architecture and any Sun server. The > intel boxes really compete on equal footings these days? I'm a bit > surprised... > > So where's everybody these days? Traffic looks very light, and not a > Clown or Gumby to be seen - at least on the first page. Is Usenet past > it's use-by date? Where's all the Informix forum action now? > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >
On Oct 27, 11:39 pm, Everett Mills <Everett.Mi...@nationalbeef.com> wrote: > I get far more posts from the IIUG's IDS list, maybe on the order of 20-1. > > --EEM > I wish I could remember my IIUG membership number; that plus no longer having the email address I used for the registration, I can't get into the member area. A flaming tragedy. I guess a re-reg is on the cards.
On Oct 28, 2:13 am, Art Kagel <art.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: > Several folk, including most of the IBMers are here at IOD and most of the > traffic is now on the IIUG IDS forum (about 1000 posts/month). > > Yes, modern Intel x86/64 boxes running Linux can compete favorably with > anything else out there. Only at the top end w/100s of cores do the Sun, > HP, and IBM P-series machines exceed their capacity. > > Art > Great - good to know. Item 1 answered. I'm preparing a big terabyte-sized migration in concert with horrendously tiny downtime requirements, so I'll be asking a fair few dumb questions to cover my rusty memory on replication trickery too. Cheers