Re: Migrating to Oracle <sigh>
Not a technical problem thread — it's a discussion about ERP/ISV vendors (PeopleSoft, SAP, Baan, Lawson) dropping Informix support and customers therefore migrating to Oracle, plus whether IBM is doing enough to keep ISVs on IDS. A claim was made that Oracle's next PeopleSoft/Fusion release would fully support IDS 10 and 11; when asked for a source, Oracle people pointed to the Fusion roadmap and the claim was challenged, and the poster conceded his source might not be reliable. The rest is speculation and jokes; no confirmation or resolution is recorded.
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Yes, The next release of PeopleSoft called, FUSION, will have Informix support. Fusion might be ready 2011. --- fred <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: > Jerry Hamilton wrote: > > "and many of them are listening...." > > > > Can you name one? > > I can. Oracle is listening. PeopleSoft recently > announced that the > next PS release will fully support IDS 10 & 11. > > Art S. Kagel > > > --- Rajesh Nair <rohin.nair@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> It's being worked on.. same reason why Christine > >> asked to contact Gary - > >> Gary is working with partners/ISVs to have them > >> continue support or > >> re-invest in IDS support if they had discontinued > - > >> and many of them are > >> listening....... > >> > >> > >> Sincerely > >> Raj > >> > >> On 6/2/07, John Carlson > >> <jwcarlson1@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:44:32 +0100, "Neil Truby" > >>> <neil.truby@ardenta.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> "Jerry Hamilton" <bigdaddyjerry@yahoo.com> > wrote > >> in message > >> > news:mailman.92.1180757198.13675.informix-list@iiug.org... > >>>>> Take your pick....Peoplesoft,,,SAP,,,BAAN... > >>>> You forgot Lawson. > >>> ..........grrrrrrrrrr.......... I still remember > >> that whole thing . . > >>> . .. > >>> > >>>> This (dissuading ISVs from dropping Informix) > is > >> another area, like the > >>>> resurgent marketing, that IBM needs to sink > >> investment into. > >>> Agreed. Customers may not want to fight change; > >> it might be easier to > >>> convert to another database. > >>> > >>> JWC > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Informix-list mailing list > >>> Informix-list@iiug.org > >>> > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> Informix-list mailing list > >> Informix-list@iiug.org > >> > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights > and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Hopefully IBM will be out of business by 2011. Jerry Hamilton wrote: > Yes, The next release of PeopleSoft called, FUSION, > will have Informix support. > > Fusion might be ready 2011. > > --- fred <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> Jerry Hamilton wrote: >>> "and many of them are listening...." >>> >>> Can you name one? >> I can. Oracle is listening. PeopleSoft recently >> announced that the >> next PS release will fully support IDS 10 & 11. >> >> Art S. Kagel >> >>> --- Rajesh Nair <rohin.nair@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It's being worked on.. same reason why Christine >>>> asked to contact Gary - >>>> Gary is working with partners/ISVs to have them >>>> continue support or >>>> re-invest in IDS support if they had discontinued >> - >>>> and many of them are >>>> listening....... >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely >>>> Raj >>>> >>>> On 6/2/07, John Carlson >>>> <jwcarlson1@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:44:32 +0100, "Neil Truby" >>>>> <neil.truby@ardenta.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Jerry Hamilton" <bigdaddyjerry@yahoo.com> >> wrote >>>> in message >>>> > news:mailman.92.1180757198.13675.informix-list@iiug.org... >>>>>>> Take your pick....Peoplesoft,,,SAP,,,BAAN... >>>>>> You forgot Lawson. >>>>> ..........grrrrrrrrrr.......... I still remember >>>> that whole thing . . >>>>> . .. >>>>> >>>>>> This (dissuading ISVs from dropping Informix) >> is >>>> another area, like the >>>>>> resurgent marketing, that IBM needs to sink >>>> investment into. >>>>> Agreed. Customers may not want to fight change; >>>> it might be easier to >>>>> convert to another database. >>>>> >>>>> JWC >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Informix-list mailing list >>>>> Informix-list@iiug.org >>>>> >> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Informix-list mailing list >>>> Informix-list@iiug.org >>>> >> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >>> >>> >>> >>> > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >>> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights >> and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. >>> http://farechase.yahoo.com/ >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Jerry Hamilton wrote: > Yes, The next release of PeopleSoft called, FUSION, > will have Informix support. > Where is this information coming from ?
Jerry Hamilton wrote: > Yes, The next release of PeopleSoft called, FUSION, > will have Informix support. > > Fusion might be ready 2011. And you folks wonder why I post here? Good grief ... get in touch with reality: http://www.oracle.com/applications/oracle-fusion-strategy-roadmap.html -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
Well, I'm sitting with a glass of Jack Daniel's in my hand, and my weird sense of humour had a good laugh at this one :-) As long as IDS survives ! -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Tool Sent: 08 June 2007 04:28 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Migrating to Oracle <sigh> Hopefully IBM will be out of business by 2011. Jerry Hamilton wrote: > Yes, The next release of PeopleSoft called, FUSION, > will have Informix support. > > Fusion might be ready 2011. > > --- fred <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> Jerry Hamilton wrote: >>> "and many of them are listening...." >>> >>> Can you name one? >> I can. Oracle is listening. PeopleSoft recently >> announced that the >> next PS release will fully support IDS 10 & 11. >> >> Art S. Kagel >> >>> --- Rajesh Nair <rohin.nair@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It's being worked on.. same reason why Christine >>>> asked to contact Gary - >>>> Gary is working with partners/ISVs to have them >>>> continue support or >>>> re-invest in IDS support if they had discontinued >> - >>>> and many of them are >>>> listening....... >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely >>>> Raj >>>> >>>> On 6/2/07, John Carlson >>>> <jwcarlson1@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:44:32 +0100, "Neil Truby" >>>>> <neil.truby@ardenta.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Jerry Hamilton" <bigdaddyjerry@yahoo.com> >> wrote >>>> in message >>>> > news:mailman.92.1180757198.13675.informix-list@iiug.org... >>>>>>> Take your pick....Peoplesoft,,,SAP,,,BAAN... >>>>>> You forgot Lawson. >>>>> ..........grrrrrrrrrr.......... I still remember >>>> that whole thing . . >>>>> . .. >>>>> >>>>>> This (dissuading ISVs from dropping Informix) >> is >>>> another area, like the >>>>>> resurgent marketing, that IBM needs to sink >>>> investment into. >>>>> Agreed. Customers may not want to fight change; >>>> it might be easier to >>>>> convert to another database. >>>>> >>>>> JWC >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Informix-list mailing list >>>>> Informix-list@iiug.org >>>>> >> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Informix-list mailing list >>>> Informix-list@iiug.org >>>> >> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >>> >>> >>> >>> > ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ >>> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights >> and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. >>> http://farechase.yahoo.com/ >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list *** Disclaimer *** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and legally privileged and is intended solely for the addressee and to others who have the authority to receive it. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized and as such, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on it is unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. The views expressed in this e-mail are the views of the individual sender and should in no way be construed as the views of the Company. The Company is not liable to ensure that outgoing e-mails are virus-free. The Company is not liable, should information or data, for whatever reason, be corrupted or fail to reach its intended addressee. The Company is not liable for any loss or damage of whatsoever nature and howsoever arising resulting from the opening or the use of the information in this e-mail, including its attachments and links. The sender of this e-mail is subject to and bound by the terms and conditions of Company’s Electronic Communications Usage Policy.
It'll be India Business Machines before too long... they'll have enough customers in India and China to survive having none left in the USA before too long... Dirk Moolman wrote: > Well, I'm sitting with a glass of Jack Daniel's in my hand, and my weird > sense of humour had a good laugh at this one > > :-) > > As long as IDS survives ! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Tool > Sent: 08 June 2007 04:28 PM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Migrating to Oracle <sigh> > > Hopefully IBM will be out of business by 2011. > > > > Jerry Hamilton wrote: >> Yes, The next release of PeopleSoft called, FUSION, >> will have Informix support. >> >> Fusion might be ready 2011. >> >> --- fred <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> Jerry Hamilton wrote: >>>> "and many of them are listening...." >>>> >>>> Can you name one? >>> I can. Oracle is listening. PeopleSoft recently >>> announced that the >>> next PS release will fully support IDS 10 & 11. >>> >>> Art S. Kagel >>> >>>> --- Rajesh Nair <rohin.nair@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's being worked on.. same reason why Christine >>>>> asked to contact Gary - >>>>> Gary is working with partners/ISVs to have them >>>>> continue support or >>>>> re-invest in IDS support if they had discontinued >>> - >>>>> and many of them are >>>>> listening....... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely >>>>> Raj >>>>> >>>>> On 6/2/07, John Carlson >>>>> <jwcarlson1@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:44:32 +-0100, "Neil Truby" >>>>>> <neil.truby@ardenta.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jerry Hamilton" <bigdaddyjerry@yahoo.com> >>> wrote >>>>> in message >>>>> >> news:mailman.92.1180757198.13675.informix-list@iiug.org... >>>>>>>> Take your pick....Peoplesoft,,,SAP,,,BAAN... >>>>>>> You forgot Lawson. >>>>>> ..........grrrrrrrrrr.......... I still remember >>>>> that whole thing . . >>>>>> . .. >>>>>> >>>>>>> This (dissuading ISVs from dropping Informix) >>> is >>>>> another area, like the >>>>>>> resurgent marketing, that IBM needs to sink >>>>> investment into. >>>>>> Agreed. Customers may not want to fight change; >>>>> it might be easier to >>>>>> convert to another database. >>>>>> >>>>>> JWC >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Informix-list mailing list >>>>>> Informix-list@iiug.org >>>>>> >>> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Informix-list mailing list >>>>> Informix-list@iiug.org >>>>> >>> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >>>> >>>> >>>> > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ >>>> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights >>> and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. >>>> http://farechase.yahoo.com/ >> >> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > > > *** Disclaimer *** > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and legally privileged and is intended solely for the addressee and to others who have the authority to receive it. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized and as such, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on it is unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. > > The views expressed in this e-mail are the views of the individual sender and should in no way be construed as the views of the Company. > > The Company is not liable to ensure that outgoing e-mails are virus-free. > > The Company is not liable, should information or data, for whatever reason, be corrupted or fail to reach its intended addressee. > > The Company is not liable for any loss or damage of whatsoever nature and howsoever arising resulting from the opening or the use of the information in this e-mail, including its attachments and links. > > The sender of this e-mail is subject to and bound by the terms and conditions of Company+IBk-s Electronic Communications Usage Policy.
I am not going to read Oracle marketing propaganda. Where does it state which database are / are not supported? By the time Fusion will be out, Oracle will certainly be version 17... > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- > bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of DA Morgan > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 17:20 > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Migrating to Oracle <sigh> > > Jerry Hamilton wrote: > > Yes, The next release of PeopleSoft called, FUSION, > > will have Informix support. > > > > Fusion might be ready 2011. > > And you folks wonder why I post here? > > Good grief ... get in touch with reality: > http://www.oracle.com/applications/oracle-fusion-strategy-roadmap.html > -- > Daniel A. Morgan > University of Washington > damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) > Puget Sound Oracle Users Group > www.psoug.org > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
Might not be a realiable source. Still checking. --- Mark Townsend <markbtownsend@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Jerry Hamilton wrote: > > Yes, The next release of PeopleSoft called, > FUSION, > > will have Informix support. > > > Where is this information coming from ? > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather