Re: Senior Oracle DBA now Learning Informix by Request
Mark Townsend said: > > This is an old chestnut. It's never been proven that Informix is easier > to own or operate than Oracle. Every one of my customers that run IDS and Oracle say that they spend all their time supporting Oracle, whether or not the Oracle is their core business system. Every one of these customers has trained their Informix DBA's to Oracle for the extra bandwidth, none of them has felt the need to train their Oracle DBA's to IDS for the extra bandwidth, even when their core business systems run on IDS. Every one of these IDS DBA's has told me: "I can't believe how much work there is to look after an Oracle database. There always seems to be something that we have to do." Form your own conclusions. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I don't read newspapers anymore except the local rag which I do weekly to cheer myself trying to see if anyone I hate has been stabbed." -- Horribilis XVI -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > Every one of my customers that run IDS and Oracle say that they spend all > their time supporting Oracle, whether or not the Oracle is their core > business system. Perhaps they should either get better DBAs or train the ones they have. <g> -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
DA Morgan said: > Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > >> Every one of my customers that run IDS and Oracle say that they spend >> all >> their time supporting Oracle, whether or not the Oracle is their core >> business system. > > Perhaps they should either get better DBAs or train the ones they have. > <g> Most of the "original" Oracle DBA's have only ever done Oracle. The cross-trained DBA's have all been (copiously) trained by Oracle as well as shadowing the experienced DBA's. I fail to see how companies can successfully recruit ONLY brilliant IDS DBA's and recruit ONLY useless Oracle DBA's. I fail to see how someone capable of single-handedly maintaining 10 IDS instances and still having a separate development (more-or-less full-time) role would struggle with maintaining one Oracle platform after undergoing a suite of Oracle training and shadowing the other full-time Oracle DBA. Unless, of course, Oracle was a lot harder to look after. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I don't read newspapers anymore except the local rag which I do weekly to cheer myself trying to see if anyone I hate has been stabbed." -- Horribilis XVI -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > DA Morgan said: >> Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >> >>> Every one of my customers that run IDS and Oracle say that they spend >>> all >>> their time supporting Oracle, whether or not the Oracle is their core >>> business system. >> Perhaps they should either get better DBAs or train the ones they have. >> <g> > > Most of the "original" Oracle DBA's have only ever done Oracle. That is likely the problem. It is no secret in the Oracle world that many of the dinosaurs (those my age), with many years of experience, are still managing Oracle databases the way they managed version 7. That isn't an Oracle issue ... that is a training and management issue. It is roughly equivalent signaling lane changes by sticking your arm out the window. It works ... but it is not best practice. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
DA Morgan said: > Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >> DA Morgan said: >>> Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >>> >>>> Every one of my customers that run IDS and Oracle say that they spend >>>> all >>>> their time supporting Oracle, whether or not the Oracle is their core >>>> business system. >>> Perhaps they should either get better DBAs or train the ones they have. >>> <g> >> >> Most of the "original" Oracle DBA's have only ever done Oracle. > > That is likely the problem. It is no secret in the Oracle world that > many of the dinosaurs (those my age), with many years of experience, > are still managing Oracle databases the way they managed version 7. Funny how most of the dinosaur Informix DBA's are still managing their IDS databases the way they managed version 7. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I don't read newspapers anymore except the local rag which I do weekly to cheer myself trying to see if anyone I hate has been stabbed." -- Horribilis XVI -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.