RE: IDS 11 - Press Releases
Yes, but OTC never pays the bar tab!!! :> -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Ian Michael Gumby Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:19 PM To: tool@thetool.com; informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: IDS 11 - Press Releases Timmy. If you can't pony up $800.00 then don't bitch about the lack of a "free" version of IDS. Or wait until there 's an IIUG version. $800 USD is ~400 BPS which is much less than OTC's annual bar tab. Now I'm a fair judge of a good deal. TANATAAFL! >From: Tool <tool@thetool.com> >Reply-To: tool@thetool.com >To: informix-list@iiug.org >Subject: Re: IDS 11 - Press Releases >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:32:46 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from perform.iiug.org ([216.177.38.211]) by >bay0-mc3-f12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Fri, >15 Jun 2007 11:35:34 -0700 >Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])by perform.iiug.org >(Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B039A443;Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:27 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from perform.iiug.org ([127.0.0.1])by localhost (perform.iiug.org >[127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)with ESMTP id pFW0fARgr5ON; Fri, 15 >Jun 2007 14:35:22 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by perform.iiug.org (Postfix, from userid 60001)id 9966FA465; >Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:20 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from perform.iiug.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])by perform.iiug.org >(Postfix) with ESMTP id 32149A432;Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:35:05 -0400 (EDT) >X-Message-Info: >LsUYwwHHNt37RF0XoPznPdUf9TDdmCSWJ31K/ff9B1Bjv+BhzLrPICfipR9ANs8Q >X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iiug.org >Path: >nnrp.xmission!xmission!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!newscon02.n ews.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!uns-out.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!p c03.usenetserver.com!fe62.usenetserver.com.POSTED!caff4bb4!not-for-mail >Organization: Tool >User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070604) >Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix >References: <mailman.208.1181931366.13675.informix-list@iiug.org> >Lines: 51 >X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com >X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers >X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint >properly. >NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:32:47 EDT >Xref: nnrp.xmission comp.databases.informix:197565 >X-BeenThere: informix-list@iiug.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 >Precedence: list >List-Id: "comp.databases.informix" <informix-list.iiug.org> >List-Unsubscribe: ><http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list>,<mailto:informix-list- request@iiug.org?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://www.iiug.org/pipermail/informix-list>; >List-Post: <mailto:informix-list@iiug.org> >List-Help: <mailto:informix-list-request@iiug.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: ><http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list>,<mailto:informix-list- request@iiug.org?subject=subscribe> >Errors-To: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org >Return-Path: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2007 18:35:34.0703 (UTC) >FILETIME=[F609E3F0:01C7AF7B] > >It's very arrogant of you to assume that $800 is acceptable as a price to >pay for access to the software. Just because it's acceptable to YOU >doesn't mean it's acceptable to others, or affordable. There are plenty >of people out there that simply cannot afford that price, and they're >not even in a business, they're people wanting to learn to use the product, >and better their skills. So, what works for you is not necessarily what >works for other people. Besides it's a steep price for something that >literally is starting from scratch in the broader market, having lost >what little momentum it had before IBM consumed it. Now that it's back >out as a new release, it needs to seed its market all over again. Not >just for big corporations, but for the real market that can give it a >headstart, the developer community and small businesses. If people want >support, then yes, pay for it, but don't beat up people for access to it, >or the market will never take off. It'll be a dud, as usual. Mark my >words, >a month from now it'll be a yawn, and nobody will care. > >-t- > >Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > > > > > >> From: pokeyman <pokeyman76@gmail.com> > >> Ask Gary Proctor. He's focusing on this issue. There's got > >> to be an answer! > >> > > > > > > Spoken like an Informix shill. ;-P > > > > Ok, point well taken. > > The "developers version" has to be a full functioning version. > > There has to be a developers program. So you need to vette the members > > to see if they are really developers or not. It already exists with > > IBM's current program. > > > > $800.00 is nothing. Its the cost of doing business as well as allow the > > developer access to tech support. > > > > Want to go beyond that, then you'd create a paperwork nightmare of NDAs, > > and company information, etc ... > > > > $800 doesn't even buy you a last minute plane ticket to Cleveland. > > > > It doesn't even cover room 1801's bar tab. (Those who attended IDUG > > should know what I'm talking about.) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. > > http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Informix-list mailing list >Informix-list@iiug.org >http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? 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