Re: Re : Re: IBM Informix - 4gl Installed in t....

How do they expected to port 4GL etc to new OS versions? Regards, David. On 09 August 2013 at 14:48 Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote: > I spoke with IBM about this in early July and got the answer I posted > "there are no plans ...". Certainly you can call and ask yourself if this > has since been resolved and let us know. It would also be a good idea to > enter a feature request (there is now an IBM Feature Request web page or > you can just call support) for the tools you use (I4GL, R4GL, & ISQL) to be > kept compatible with the current releases of the Informix Database engine. > > Personally I think that IBM has made a serious mistake on this. > Historically, the tools are an important part of the Informix universe. > The original company was Relational Database Systems and its original > product, after CISAM (yes an Informix product) was the ISQL & 4GL > application development environments which happened to come with a > relational database built over CISAM. That database was what today is > known as Informix Standard Engine and you got it free when you bought ISQL > and/or 4GL. Originally you couldn't even buy the relational database > separately! It was shortly after they realized the power and popularity of > the Informix 4GL and Informix SQL products that they renamed the company to > Informix Software back in 1983 or so. These "tools" aren't just legacy > products, they are a Legacy. > > Anyway, I'm encouraging everyone who uses "tools" to enter a feature > request to "Keep ISQL, C4GL, and R4GL installation and run time compatible > with being installed in the same INFORMIXDIR with all currently supported > Informix Dynamic Server database server software and CSDK releases". > > Art > > Art S. Kagel > Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions > and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any > other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, > implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of > other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor > those of the entities themselves. > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM, francois.denommee@videotron.ca < > francois.denommee@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > = > > > > Art=2C > > = > > > > Is there a chance IBM made a fix with more recent versions=2C cf IDS 12=2E= > > 10 and CSDK 4=2E1 with informix 7=2E50 tools =3F Below an extract of on= > > e support page = > > > > = > > > > http=3A//pic=2Edhe=2Eibm=2Ecom/infocenter/informix/v121/index=2Ejsp=3Fto= > > pic=3D=252Fcom=2Eibm=2Epo=2Edoc=252Fproducts=2Ehtm > > = > > > > IBM=AE Informix=AE 12=2E10 = > > > > Product versions = > > > > The Informix=AE family of products consists of the database server=2C ad= > > ministration tools=2C client products=2C and more=2E > > = > > > > For information about the kind of support available for your product ver= > > sion=2C go to the Information Management Product Lifecycle page at http=3A= > > //informix-myview=2Eblogspot=2Ecom/(http=3A//www=2Eibm=2Ecom/software/da= > > ta/support/lifecycle/=22 target=3D=5Fblank=3Ehttp=3A//www=2Eibm=2Ecom/so= > > ftware/data/support/lifecycle/=2E > > Informix servers = > > > > IBM=AE Informix 12=2E10=2ExC1 = > > > > Client products = > > > > IBM Informix Client Software Development Kit=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix Connect=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix JDBC Driver=2C version 4=2E10=2EJC1 > > IBM Data Server Driver for JDBC and SQLJ=2C version 3=2E59 > > IBM Data Server Driver for ODBC and CLI=2C version 10=2E1=2E2 > > IBM Data Server Provider for =2ENET=2C version 10=2E1=2E2 (Windows onl= > > y) > > IBM Informix DataBlade=AE Developers Kit (DBDK)=2C version 4=2E20=2ExC= > > 1 > > IBM Informix BladeManager=2C version 4=2E20=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix OLE DB Provider=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > > > DataBlade modules = > > > > IBM Informix Excalibur Text Search DataBlade=2C version 1=2E31=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix Web DataBlade Module=2C version 4=2E13=2ExC4 > > Sample spatial data disks > > > > Globalization components = > > > > IBM Informix GLS=2C version 6=2E00=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix International Language Supplement=2C version 3=2E50=2EMC7= > > > > Informix tools = > > > > IBM Informix 4GL=2C version 7=2E50=2ExC6 > > IBM Informix Genero=AE=2C version 2=2E41 > > IBM OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) for Informix=2C version 3=2E11=2C which inclu= > > des the following plug-in components=3A = > > > > IBM Informix Health Advisor Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > IBM Informix Replication Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > IBM Informix Schema Manager Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > IBM Informix TimeSeries Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > > > IBM Mobile OpenAdmin Tool for Informix=2C version 1=2E1 > > > > Informix solutions = > > > > IBM Informix Warehouse Accelerator=2C version 12=2E10=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix SQL Warehousing Tool=2C version 11=2E50 (supported by Inf= > > ormix 11=2E50=2ExC3 and later versions) > > > > Informix virtual images = > > > > IBM Informix Enterprise Hypervisor Edition 12=2E10=2EFC1 > > IBM Informix 12=2E10=2ExC1 Virtual Appliance > > > > Additional IBM software = > > > > The following IBM products are provided in the package of some Informix = > > editions=2E You can learn more about these products on ibm=2Ecom=AE=2E > > = > > > > IBM Cognos=AE BI 10=2E2 > > IBM Data Studio 3=2E2 > > IBM Mobile Database 7=2E0 > > IBM Mobile Database Sync 1=2E0 > > IBM SPSS=AE Desktop 21 > > IBM SPSS Modeler 15 = > > > > = > > > > Regards > > = > > > > Francois Denommee > > = > > > > Le 08/08/13=2C Art Kagel =3Cart=2Ekagel=40gmail=2Ecom=3E a =E9crit =3A = > > > > =3E Informix tools (so I4GL=2C R4GL=2C and ISQL ) can no longer be inst= > > alled in the = > > > > =3E same INFORMIXDIR as the database server itself=2E This is because IB= > > M has = > > > > =3E made the decision that the last compile of these tools (IB it was wi= > > th the = > > > > =3E CSDK v3=2E50=2EFC2) is the last compile=2E I was told that they =22h= > > ave no plans = > > > > =3E to recompile the tools with the latest CSDK versions after that one=2E= > > =22 = > > > > =3E Since some objects were moved from library to library and some inter= > > nal = > > > > =3E function signatures have changed in the later CSDK versions=2C the t= > > ools are = > > > > =3E no longer compatible with the engine=2E Whichever is installed first= > > - = > > > > =3E whether tools or engine - will not run because of the shared library= > > = > > > > =3E incompatibility=2E = > > > > =3E = > > > > =3E Here=27s the strangest one=3A I have a client who builds lots of cus= > > tom = > > > > =3E sperform runners=2E If the runners contain any ESQL/C code=2C they h= > > ave to be = > > > > =3E compiles in the engine=27s environment as static execut