Re: database market share 2003

Noons said: > Darin McBride allegedly said,on my timestamp of 3/06/2004 10:18 AM: > >> I think Noons' point is that it's unfair to compare Oracle (Linux, >> Unix, Windows) against DB2 (Linux, Unix, Windows, AS/400) since the >> domains are different. > > Nope. > >> Larry wonders why it's fair, using the same logic, to compare Oracle >> (Linux, Unix, Windows) against MS SQL Server (Windows) since the >> domains are different. > > Nope. > >> all-HP, all-Sun, all-IBM, etc.), I would think that most database-using >> shops are simply trying to store and retrieve data. As long as that >> works, the platform in use is only of as much interest as their budget >> allows (i.e., a budget of $20,000 isn't going to get an AS/400!). > > So, if you are using a AS400 to run RPG applications inherited > from your 20 year old System 36, WTF is IBM counting THAT > as a DB2 license? > > >> If they go out and purchase some hardware running DB2, or Oracle, or >> SQL Server, that's what they bought. So it counts for that product. > > Sure. the problem is that IBM is counting ALL (let me see if you can > grasp the difference: I said ALL, it means THE TOTALITY OF) AS400 sites > as DB2 sites. Which they are NOT, NEVER were and NEVER will be. > > >> counted as IE users, for example. However, what Noons has not proven, >> or even attempted to demonstrate, is that this is a significant >> distortion of the reality. Fact is that they did buy DB2, although >> reality may be that they didn't want to. But is that a significant >> portion of the AS/400 market as to render it misleading? > > Yes. ALL AS400 sites IS a "significant portion of the AS400 market", > in case you have not noticed? Jeez, lighten up. All you Oracle guys are so tense and uppity (right, Daniel?), go out and get laid or drink a beer or something. Like it frickin' matters.... -- Bye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche "Necrophilia means never having to say ... well, anything!" - Captain Pedantic "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di cazzo" - Marco sending to informix-list

"Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@serendipita.com> wrote in message news:<c9n9lv$nq7$1@news.xmission.com>... > Noons said: > > > > Yes. ALL AS400 sites IS a "significant portion of the AS400 market", > > in case you have not noticed? > > Jeez, lighten up. All you Oracle guys are so tense and uppity (right, > Daniel?), go out and get laid or drink a beer or something. > > Like it frickin' matters.... Of course it matters. Gartner et al are messing with people's livelihoods here. jg -- @home.com is bogus. I choose "something": http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040603/news_1b3glaxo.html http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040602/news_1n2depress.html http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20040505-1455-ca-iraqprisonerabuse-calif.html http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20040603-9999-6m3brain.html