Not that you guys pay any attention...
Not a technical problem at all: this is an industry-gossip thread sparked by Sun's January 2008 announcement that it was buying MySQL. The poster asked why IBM didn't similarly acquire SAP. Replies joked about German government or EU regulators blocking such a deal (with a side discussion of the Volkswagen law), and one participant argued antitrust would not be an obstacle since Oracle already competes via PeopleSoft/JD Edwards/BEA. No technical issue and no resolution are recorded — it ends as speculation and opinion.
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But today Sun announced the purchase of MySQL. Doesn't anyone find that a bit interesting? On a similar note, why doesn't IBM's powers to be, wake up and smell the coffee and acquire SAP? ;-) -G _________________________________________________________________ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008
> > On a similar note, why doesn't IBM's powers to be, wake up and smell the coffee and acquire SAP? > ;-) Um - maybe a little thing called the German Government ?
German Government? Why should our government do this? May be IBM ist just to big to move. Regards, Joerg Volz > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > markbtownsend@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:52 PM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Not that you guys pay any attention... > > > > > On a similar note, why doesn't IBM's powers to be, wake up > and smell the coffee and acquire SAP? > > ;-) > > Um - maybe a little thing called the German Government ? > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > IT Handel und Beratung Jörg Volz Bernhard-Früh-Str. 7 77855 Achern GERMANY Tel: 07841-681651 Fax: 07841-681654 Mobil: 0170-2989757 Ust-ID: DE201383541 http://www.it-volz.de
J'rg Volz wrote: > German Government? Why should our government do this? Maybe Mark is confusing Volkswagen wit SAP (that can easily happen ;-). And even that one has long been settles by the EU. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab
"Serge Rielau" <srielau@ca.ibm.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:5v8usvF1lkpm4U1@mid.individual.net... > J'rg Volz wrote: > > German Government? Why should our government do this? > Maybe Mark is confusing Volkswagen wit SAP (that can easily happen ;-). > And even that one has long been settles by the EU. May be, the Volkswagen law (state law of Lower Saxony to keep influence on Volkswagen) is a thing of the past. To my knowledge there was no cartel "STOP" called by a german government in the past 10 to 15 years. Ok, it would be charming to see little Lary bitching about IBM buying SAP (or SAP switching back to informix) and kicking Oracle out of the SAP world. Joerg
Sigh... IBM has been for a long time a global corporation with extensive operations in Germany. So the issue wouldn't be IBM purchasing SAP based on the fact that IBM is not a German company and would move jobs to India, Viet Nam or some other "global sourced" labor. The issue would be if IBM's purchasing SAP would hurt the industry. And the answer to that is no. Thanks to Oracle purchasing Peoplesoft which had just purchased JDEdwards, you now have a competitor which is striving to offer the same types of services/software. What IBM has that Oracle doesn't is hardware. (Oracle's purchase plans of BEA show that they are beefing up their middleware and have long been selling apps. Therefore IBM would not be a monopoly and would not harm competition. In fact the purchase of SAP would make IBM more competitive because they would be capable of competing against Oracle, while at the same time, their services division is also selling Oracle's solution. IMHO, there shouldn't be any government hurdles, while Sun and or Oracle may object, it will ultimately pass. The only reason that you don't see any of this is due to the inability for this generation of IBM Execs looking past their retirement date. > From: srielau@ca.ibm.com > Subject: Re: Not that you guys pay any attention... > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:09:59 -0500 > To: informix-list@iiug.org > > Jörg Volz wrote: > > German Government? Why should our government do this? > Maybe Mark is confusing Volkswagen wit SAP (that can easily happen ;-). > And even that one has long been settles by the EU. > > Cheers > Serge > -- > Serge Rielau > DB2 Solutions Development > IBM Toronto Lab > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008