Identical Instances Same Server

Hello, We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the same time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use onbar (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on the original server are something like: /usr/informix/root_dbs /usr/informix/log_dbs /usr/informix/chunk_1 /usr/informix/chunk_2 /usr/informix/chunk_3 etc... Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, David --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1

Look into a redirected restore, you can rename the files underneath the = chunks with this. Otherwise, no you cannot have two identical instances on the same = machine. =20 j. On Jun 1, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Informix DBA wrote: > Hello,=20 >=20 > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it = is=20 > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the = same=20 > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use = onbar=20 > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second=20= > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the = same=20 > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have = identical=20 > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original=20= > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on = the=20 > original server are something like:=20 > /usr/informix/root_dbs=20 > /usr/informix/log_dbs=20 > /usr/informix/chunk_1=20 > /usr/informix/chunk_2=20 > /usr/informix/chunk_3=20 >=20 > etc...=20 >=20 > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated,=20 >=20 > David=20 >=20 > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1=20 >=20 >=20 > = **************************************************************************= *****=20 > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20= >=20

Please think about what you are asking. Can you have, in any other context, two different files residing at the same path? Can I build several houses in the same location? Just to be clear... No. Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the same > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use onbar > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on the > original server are something like: > /usr/informix/root_dbs > /usr/informix/log_dbs > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > etc... > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > David > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --20cf307f30eea3069704a4a7bcc5

Hi David, If you want to use 2 instances on the same machine that use the same chunks, why not use a primary instance and an SDS instance that allows you to have 2 instances on the same machine with the same disk space (sharing the chunks). This way, you do no need to restore using onbar nor ontape. Both instances see the same chunks. Each instance has its own ONCONFIG file. Is this what you want? Khaled Bentebal Email: khaled.bentebal@consult-ix.fr Site Web: www.consult-ix.fr Le 01/06/11 16:18, Informix DBA a écrit : > Hello, > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the same > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use onbar > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on the > original server are something like: > /usr/informix/root_dbs > /usr/informix/log_dbs > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > etc... > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > David > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > >

Only if you use relative chunk names: ./root_dbs ./log_dbs ... which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended or ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) HTH Hrvoje On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > Hello, > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the same > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use onbar > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on the > original server are something like: > /usr/informix/root_dbs > /usr/informix/log_dbs > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > etc... > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > David > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > >

Thank you. Yes I clearly understand what I was asking and I didn't know of a way it was possible and just wanted to see if perhaps someone else had some ideas. --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote: > Please think about what you are asking. Can you have, in any other context, > two different files residing at the same path? Can I build several houses > in the same location? > > Just to be clear... No. > > Art > > Art S. Kagel > Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions > and > do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other > organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or > by > inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals > affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the > entities themselves. > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > same > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > onbar> > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > the > > original server are something like: > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > etc... > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > David > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > --20cf307f30eea3069704a4a7bcc5 > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec520e4ffdfe62504a4aa2b23

Hi, I really wanted to have 2 distinct (not related) instances so SDS would not be an option. Thank You, David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Khaled Bentebal < khaled.bentebal@consult-ix.fr> wrote: > Hi David, > > If you want to use 2 instances on the same machine that use the same > chunks, why not use a primary instance and an SDS instance that allows > you to have 2 instances on the same machine with the same disk space > (sharing the chunks). This way, you do no need to restore using onbar > nor ontape. > > Both instances see the same chunks. Each instance has its own ONCONFIG > file. > > Is this what you want? > > Khaled Bentebal > > Email: khaled.bentebal@consult-ix.fr > Site Web: www.consult-ix.fr > > Le 01/06/11 16:18, Informix DBA a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > same > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > onbar> > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > the > > original server are something like: > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > etc... > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > David > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec520e4ff57e53504a4aa303e

Have you considers running multiple zones to do this. Bruce Simms Data Base Services TALX, Provider of Equifax Workforce Solutions 2330 Ball Drive St. Louis, MO 63146 Phone (314) 214-7703 FAX (314) 983-3238 bsimms@talx.com -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Informix DBA Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:52 PM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23889] Thank you. Yes I clearly understand what I was asking and I didn't know of a way it was possible and just wanted to see if perhaps someone else had some ideas. --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote: > Please think about what you are asking. Can you have, in any other context, > two different files residing at the same path? Can I build several houses > in the same location? > > Just to be clear... No. > > Art > > Art S. Kagel > Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions > and > do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other > organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or > by > inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals > affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the > entities themselves. > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > same > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > onbar> > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > the > > original server are something like: > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > etc... > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > David > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > --20cf307f30eea3069704a4a7bcc5 > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec520e4ffdfe62504a4aa2b23 ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.

Sorry, in a weird mode today. The only way I can think of to do this would be, as Bruce suggests, with some kind of VM or LPAR of the system in to multiple logical machines with separate filesystem roots. Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you. Yes I clearly understand what I was asking and I didn't know of > a way it was possible and just wanted to see if perhaps someone else had > some ideas. > > --David > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Please think about what you are asking. Can you have, in any other > context, > > two different files residing at the same path? Can I build several houses > > in the same location? > > > > Just to be clear... No. > > > > Art > > > > Art S. Kagel > > Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ > > > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions > > and > > do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any > other > > organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or > > by > > inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals > > affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the > > entities themselves. > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it > is > > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > > same > > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > > onbar> > > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the > same > > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have > identical > > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > > the > > > original server are something like: > > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > > > David > > > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > --20cf307f30eea3069704a4a7bcc5 > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > --bcaec520e4ffdfe62504a4aa2b23 > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec50fe0cdaf275804a4aa5c0b

Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge is that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think I would be able to use that now. I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each server. I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) Have a great day, --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: > Only if you use relative chunk names: > ../root_dbs > ../log_dbs > .... > > which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended > or > ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) > HTH > Hrvoje > > On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > > Hello, > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > same > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > onbar> > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > the > > original server are something like: > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > etc... > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > David > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c

David. Using the Informix zones will not require use of relative pathing we do this in our dev. Environments run as many as 8 zone on a single sun/solaris box as you are looking to do. You will want to use non-global zones so each zone can have the same device names each having it's own I/P for that zone. Bruce Simms Data Base Services TALX, Provider of Equifax Workforce Solutions 2330 Ball Drive St. Louis, MO 63146 Phone (314) 214-7703 FAX (314) 983-3238 bsimms@talx.com -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Informix DBA Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:16 PM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23893] Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge is that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think I would be able to use that now. I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each server. I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) Have a great day, --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: > Only if you use relative chunk names: > ../root_dbs > ../log_dbs > .... > > which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended > or > ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) > HTH > Hrvoje > > On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > > Hello, > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > same > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > onbar> > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > the > > original server are something like: > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > etc... > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > David > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.

Bruce, Art, Thank you for the idea of uzing Zones. Yes we also use zones for having multiple instances and servers on one physical SUN server. Great minds think alike. That was actually my first suggestion and the UNIX sys-admin group pushed back saying I should first try and find a way to do it in on one server - i.e. one less zone/server for them to maintain :-) --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bruce Simms <Bruce.Simms@talx.com> wrote: > David. > > Using the Informix zones will not require use of relative pathing we do > this > in our dev. Environments run as many as 8 zone on a single sun/solaris box > as > you are looking to do. You will want to use non-global zones so each zone > can > have the same device names each having it's own I/P for that zone. > > Bruce Simms > Data Base Services > TALX, Provider of Equifax Workforce Solutions > 2330 Ball Drive > St. Louis, MO 63146 > > Phone (314) 214-7703 > FAX (314) 983-3238 > bsimms@talx.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > Informix > DBA > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:16 PM > To: ids@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23893] > > Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge is > that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think I > would be able to use that now. > > I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the > chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each > server. > > I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) > > Have a great day, > > --David > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic > <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Only if you use relative chunk names: > > ../root_dbs > > ../log_dbs > > .... > > > > which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended > > or > > ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) > > HTH > > Hrvoje > > > > On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it > is > > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > > same > > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > > onbar> > > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the > same > > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have > identical > > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > > the > > > original server are something like: > > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > > > David > > > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec51dd19f45569304a4abdd36

The only other alternative is to change the chunk paths. Use something more like: /usr/informix/srvr1/root_dbs /usr/informix/srvr1/log_dbs /usr/informix/srvr1/chunk_1 /usr/informix/srvr1/chunk_2 /usr/informix/srvr1/chunk_3 /usr/informix/srvr2/root_dbs /usr/informix/srvr2/log_dbs /usr/informix/srvr2/chunk_1 /usr/informix/srvr2/chunk_2 /usr/informix/srvr2/chunk_3 /usr/informix/srvr3/root_dbs /usr/informix/srvr3/log_dbs /usr/informix/srvr3/chunk_1 /usr/informix/srvr3/chunk_2 /usr/informix/srvr3/chunk_3 if you use a mapping file for the redirected restores, the process of refreshing the several copies is simple. Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> wrote: > Bruce, Art, > > Thank you for the idea of uzing Zones. Yes we also use zones for having > multiple instances and servers on one physical SUN server. Great minds > think alike. That was actually my first suggestion and the UNIX sys-admin > group pushed back saying I should first try and find a way to do it in on > one server - i.e. one less zone/server for them to maintain :-) > > --David > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bruce Simms <Bruce.Simms@talx.com> wrote: > > > David. > > > > Using the Informix zones will not require use of relative pathing we do > > this > > in our dev. Environments run as many as 8 zone on a single sun/solaris > box > > as > > you are looking to do. You will want to use non-global zones so each zone > > can > > have the same device names each having it's own I/P for that zone. > > > > Bruce Simms > > Data Base Services > > TALX, Provider of Equifax Workforce Solutions > > 2330 Ball Drive > > St. Louis, MO 63146 > > > > Phone (314) 214-7703 > > FAX (314) 983-3238 > > bsimms@talx.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > > Informix > > DBA > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:16 PM > > To: ids@iiug.org > > Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23893] > > > > Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge > is > > that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think I > > would be able to use that now. > > > > I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the > > chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each > > server. > > > > I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) > > > > Have a great day, > > > > --David > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic > > <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > Only if you use relative chunk names: > > > ../root_dbs > > > ../log_dbs > > > .... > > > > > > which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended > > > or > > > ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) > > > HTH > > > Hrvoje > > > > > > On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it > > is > > > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at > the > > > same > > > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > > > onbar> > > > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the > > same > > > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have > > identical > > > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names > on > > > the > > > > original server are something like: > > > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > --bcaec51dd19f45569304a4abdd36 > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec547c6050ad58304a4abf021

But can this be done, even in theory, on a single copy of the OS? I don't believe this could ever exist. If the pathnames must be identical, then you'd have two programs using the same file for different purposes. The database can not be kept in a consistent state in that case, no matter how cleverly things are programmed. You must have either two different copies of the OS (hardware partitions or virtual machines or Solaris zones or some equivalent, or you'll have to change the pathnames, or you'll have to use relative paths. I can not think of any other options. Cheers, Dick Snoke Executive IT Specialist IBM - Channel Works (404) 487-1595 dsnoke@us.ibm.com From: "Informix DBA" <in4mixdba@gmail.com> To: ids@iiug.org Date: 06/01/11 02:17 PM Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23893] Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge is that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think I would be able to use that now. I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each server. I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) Have a great day, --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: > Only if you use relative chunk names: > ../root_dbs > ../log_dbs > .... > > which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended > or > ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) > HTH > Hrvoje > > On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > > Hello, > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > same > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > onbar> > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > the > > original server are something like: > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > etc... > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > David > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.

My only suggestion would be to look at partition the box. While you are running on the same hardware you have divided it into two complete systems. John F. Miller III STSM, Embedability Architect miller3@us.ibm.com 503-578-5645 IBM Informix Dynamic Server (IDS) ids-bounces@iiug.org wrote on 06/01/2011 08:52:30 AM: > [image removed] > > Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23888] > > Hrvoje Zokovic > > to: > > ids > > 06/01/2011 08:54 AM > > Sent by: > > ids-bounces@iiug.org > > Please respond to ids > > Only if you use relative chunk names: > ../root_dbs > ../log_dbs > .... > > which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended > or > ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) > HTH > Hrvoje > > On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > > Hello, > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it is > > possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up atthe same > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use onbar> > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > > server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the same > > server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have identical > > chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > > Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on the > > original server are something like: > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > etc... > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > David > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. >

Forgive me if someone has already mentioned, but what about SDS? Or are you wanting the data to change between the instances after the restore? Sent from my iPad On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> wrote: > Bruce, Art, > > Thank you for the idea of uzing Zones. Yes we also use zones for having > multiple instances and servers on one physical SUN server. Great minds > think alike. That was actually my first suggestion and the UNIX sys-admin > group pushed back saying I should first try and find a way to do it in on > one server - i.e. one less zone/server for them to maintain :-) > > --David > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bruce Simms <Bruce.Simms@talx.com> wrote: > >> David. >> >> Using the Informix zones will not require use of relative pathing we do >> this >> in our dev. Environments run as many as 8 zone on a single sun/solaris box >> as >> you are looking to do. You will want to use non-global zones so each zone >> can >> have the same device names each having it's own I/P for that zone. >> >> Bruce Simms >> Data Base Services >> TALX, Provider of Equifax Workforce Solutions >> 2330 Ball Drive >> St. Louis, MO 63146 >> >> Phone (314) 214-7703 >> FAX (314) 983-3238 >> bsimms@talx.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of >> Informix >> DBA >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:16 PM >> To: ids@iiug.org >> Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23893] >> >> Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge is >> that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think I >> would be able to use that now. >> >> I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the >> chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each >> server. >> >> I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) >> >> Have a great day, >> >> --David >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic >> <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Only if you use relative chunk names: >>> ../root_dbs >>> ../log_dbs >>> .... >>> >>> which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended >>> or >>> ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) >>> HTH >>> Hrvoje >>> >>> On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it >> is >>>> possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the >>> same >>>> time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use >>> onbar>>>> (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second >>>> server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the >> same >>>> server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have >> identical >>>> chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original >>>> Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on >>> the >>>> original server are something like: >>>> /usr/informix/root_dbs >>>> /usr/informix/log_dbs >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_1 >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_2 >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_3 >>>> >>>> etc... >>>> >>>> Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > ******************************************************************************* >>>> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > ******************************************************************************* >>> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. >>> >>> >> >> --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c >> >> >> >> > ******************************************************************************* >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. >> >> >> >> > ******************************************************************************* >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. >> >> > > --bcaec51dd19f45569304a4abdd36 > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. >

Mark, Yes SDS was already mentioned. Though I wanted to be able to do 2 distinct restores of the same original Informix instance and have both unrelated restores as distinct instinces on the same server. Though mostly people already replied that they do not think there is a way to do it. Part of my thought (which I realize I didn't mention before) was that since we use soft links and each Informix chunk really points to a different raw device on some storage system that somehow based on some environment settings I could manage a tweak. Though I don't see a way to do this either. I may use either the zones suggestion or use the redirected restore and dynamically remap the chunks of the 2nd instance during the onbar restore. --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Mark Jamison <majp51@me.com> wrote: > Forgive me if someone has already mentioned, but what about SDS? > > Or are you wanting the data to change between the instances after the > restore? > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Bruce, Art, > > > > Thank you for the idea of uzing Zones. Yes we also use zones for having > > multiple instances and servers on one physical SUN server. Great minds > > think alike. That was actually my first suggestion and the UNIX sys-admin > > group pushed back saying I should first try and find a way to do it in on > > one server - i.e. one less zone/server for them to maintain :-) > > > > --David > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bruce Simms <Bruce.Simms@talx.com> > wrote: > > > >> David. > >> > >> Using the Informix zones will not require use of relative pathing we do > >> this > >> in our dev. Environments run as many as 8 zone on a single sun/solaris > box > >> as > >> you are looking to do. You will want to use non-global zones so each > zone > >> can > >> have the same device names each having it's own I/P for that zone. > >> > >> Bruce Simms > >> Data Base Services > >> TALX, Provider of Equifax Workforce Solutions > >> 2330 Ball Drive > >> St. Louis, MO 63146 > >> > >> Phone (314) 214-7703 > >> FAX (314) 983-3238 > >> bsimms@talx.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > >> Informix > >> DBA > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:16 PM > >> To: ids@iiug.org > >> Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23893] > >> > >> Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge > is > >> that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think > I > >> would be able to use that now. > >> > >> I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the > >> chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each > >> server. > >> > >> I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) > >> > >> Have a great day, > >> > >> --David > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic > >> <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Only if you use relative chunk names: > >>> ../root_dbs > >>> ../log_dbs > >>> .... > >>> > >>> which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended > >>> or > >>> ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) > >>> HTH > >>> Hrvoje > >>> > >>> On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it > >> is > >>>> possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > >>> same > >>>> time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > >>> onbar> >>>> (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > >>>> server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the > >> same > >>>> server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have > >> identical > >>>> chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > >>>> Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > >>> the > >>>> original server are something like: > >>>> /usr/informix/root_dbs > >>>> /usr/informix/log_dbs > >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_1 > >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_2 > >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_3 > >>>> > >>>> etc... > >>>> > >>>> Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > >>>> > >>>> David > >>>> > >>>> --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ******************************************************************************* > >>>> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ******************************************************************************* > >>> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ******************************************************************************* > >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ******************************************************************************* > >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > >> > >> > > > > --bcaec51dd19f45569304a4abdd36 > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec51ddbe5d3daed04a4bcd352

I always use relative chunk path names, but that is because I do a lot of MACH11 testing on a single machine and the chunk paths must match up. If you should decide to do that then set up a directory, cd into that directory, and do a redirected restore into that directory using relative path names. Then set up another directory and do the exact same thing in it. Finally instead of starting the server by simply running oninit, create a script which will first do a cd into the correct directory and then execute oninit. The key issue for making relative path name chunks work is to make sure that you are in the correct directory when issuing oninit. In my case, I set up my directories as /db/IDS/serv1, /db/IDS/serv2 etc. and when I want to start a server up, I simply execute a script containing --- ------------------------------------------------- tbset () { . tbset $1 $2 } tbset $1 cd sudo -u informix oninit & ------------------------------------------------------- where tbset is nothing but.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- export INFORMIXDIR=<Where you install informix> export INFORMIXSERVER=$1 export ONCONFIG=onconfig.$1 export PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/bin:${PATH} export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=${INFORMIXDIR}/etc/sqlhostsif [ $# -gt 1 ] then cd /db/IDS/$1 fi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ To make it easier, I always set up my server names and onconfig names to match the same subdirectory where my chunks (or links to the chunks) are located. M.P. From: "Informix DBA" <in4mixdba@gmail.com> To: ids@iiug.org Date: 06/02/2011 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23908] Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org Mark, Yes SDS was already mentioned. Though I wanted to be able to do 2 distinct restores of the same original Informix instance and have both unrelated restores as distinct instinces on the same server. Though mostly people already replied that they do not think there is a way to do it. Part of my thought (which I realize I didn't mention before) was that since we use soft links and each Informix chunk really points to a different raw device on some storage system that somehow based on some environment settings I could manage a tweak. Though I don't see a way to do this either. I may use either the zones suggestion or use the redirected restore and dynamically remap the chunks of the 2nd instance during the onbar restore. --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Mark Jamison <majp51@me.com> wrote: > Forgive me if someone has already mentioned, but what about SDS? > > Or are you wanting the data to change between the instances after the > restore? > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Informix DBA <in4mixdba@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Bruce, Art, > > > > Thank you for the idea of uzing Zones. Yes we also use zones for having > > multiple instances and servers on one physical SUN server. Great minds > > think alike. That was actually my first suggestion and the UNIX sys-admin > > group pushed back saying I should first try and find a way to do it in on > > one server - i.e. one less zone/server for them to maintain :-) > > > > --David > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bruce Simms <Bruce.Simms@talx.com> > wrote: > > > >> David. > >> > >> Using the Informix zones will not require use of relative pathing we do > >> this > >> in our dev. Environments run as many as 8 zone on a single sun/solaris > box > >> as > >> you are looking to do. You will want to use non-global zones so each > zone > >> can > >> have the same device names each having it's own I/P for that zone. > >> > >> Bruce Simms > >> Data Base Services > >> TALX, Provider of Equifax Workforce Solutions > >> 2330 Ball Drive > >> St. Louis, MO 63146 > >> > >> Phone (314) 214-7703 > >> FAX (314) 983-3238 > >> bsimms@talx.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > >> Informix > >> DBA > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:16 PM > >> To: ids@iiug.org > >> Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23893] > >> > >> Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge > is > >> that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think > I > >> would be able to use that now. > >> > >> I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the > >> chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each > >> server. > >> > >> I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) > >> > >> Have a great day, > >> > >> --David > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic > >> <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Only if you use relative chunk names: > >>> ../root_dbs > >>> ../log_dbs > >>> .... > >>> > >>> which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended > >>> or > >>> ask Chuck Norris I'm sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) > >>> HTH > >>> Hrvoje > >>> > >>> On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if it > >> is > >>>> possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server up at the > >>> same > >>>> time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > >>> onbar> >>>> (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a second > >>>> server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances on the > >> same > >>>> server. The challenge is that both instances would need to have > >> identical > >>>> chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it exists on the original > >>>> Informix instance. Is there any way to accomplish this? Chunk names on > >>> the > >>>> original server are something like: > >>>> /usr/informix/root_dbs > >>>> /usr/informix/log_dbs > >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_1 > >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_2 > >>>> /usr/informix/chunk_3 > >>>> > >>>> etc... > >>>> > >>>> Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > >>>> > >>>> David > >>>> > >>>> --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ******************************************************************************* > >>>> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ******************************************************************************* > >>> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >@

Hi, maybe chroot can help. You could build a chroot environment with some links of the necessary dirs like /bin /etc /usr INFORMIXDIR and make links to the new datastores which have the same filename, but a different location, if that is what you need. Then start a shell using chroot and update your envvars. Running IDS here should work, as long as you put the instance # in onconfig to a unique value, which results to a correct shared memory allocation. Within the same filesystem, this is not possible without renaming the chunk links. Best regards, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Informix DBA [mailto:in4mixdba@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:16 PM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Identical Instances Same Server [23893] Thank you all for the idea of using relative chunk names. The challenge is that the original instance does not use relative paths so I don't think I would be able to use that now. I also didn't want to do the redirected restore option of renaming the chunks because then I would end up with different chunk names on each server. I guess I was "dreaming" of something that doesn't exist yet :-) Have a great day, --David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Hrvoje Zokovic <hzokovic.iiug@gmail.com>wrote: > Only if you use relative chunk names: > ../root_dbs > ../log_dbs > .... > > which is _REALLY_ danger and not recommended or ask Chuck Norris I'm > sure he can have two instances you are asking :o) HTH Hrvoje > > On 01.06.2011. 16:18, Informix DBA wrote: > > Hello, > > > > We are running Informix 11.50.FC6 on Solaris 10. I am wondering if > > it is possible to have identical instances on the same UNIX server > > up at the > same > > time. For example, we have 1 production server and would like to use > onbar> > (without renaming chunks on the restore) to do 2 restores to a > > second server. So the end product would be 2 live restored instances > > on the same server. The challenge is that both instances would need > > to have identical chunk paths and names - exactly the same as it > > exists on the original Informix instance. Is there any way to > > accomplish this? Chunk names on > the > > original server are something like: > > /usr/informix/root_dbs > > /usr/informix/log_dbs > > /usr/informix/chunk_1 > > /usr/informix/chunk_2 > > /usr/informix/chunk_3 > > > > etc... > > > > Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated, > > > > David > > > > --bcaec54309049492fb04a4a731e1 > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************ ******* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************ ******* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --bcaec54309044565fa04a4aa810c ************************************************************************ ******* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.