Re: IIUG Board election results
Not a technical thread: this is a flame war spun off from a dispute about IIUG board elections. The only quasi-technical point is a brief argument over terminology — whether Informix counts as an "embedded" database (a hidden component, e.g. inside a phone switch or POS device) versus an "integrated" one (a visible part of a stack like LAMP). The rest consists of personal insults and accusations about the IIUG board nomination process. No technical problem is posed and no resolution is recorded; little of value for a reader seeking Informix help.
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On Feb 18, 10:11 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > > From: af...@networkip.net > > > To: informix-l...@iiug.org > > > Subject: Re: IIUG Board election results > > > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:04:29 -0600 > > > > > When did 'embedded' mean something like Informix? > > > When its a key component of a solution. Think of when you're selling a > > phone switch. You have an embedded database. There is a difference > > between integrated and embedded. Usually when you're talking about > > embedded, you're talking about a component that isn't visible. > > Integrated you're talking about a component that *is* visible. As an > > example, you're selling an e-commerce solution. So you're selling a web > > server, app server, and database server. So the database is a visible > > component of your overall solution. (LAMP for example is an integrated > > solution.) > > > Don't think of embedded as a bad thing. The fact that you can fit Unix > > OS, IDS engine and the database all on a key fob? (Oh and if you want, > > the app too....) That's definitely not a bad thing. > > A practical use case would be part of a POS system where the cashier has > > their own fob that they insert at the start of the shift and remove at > > the end of the shift when they also flip out the cash drawer. > > > (Hmmm that could be patented.... ;-) > > What a load of utter cock. > > ( Sorry OTC I stole your line. :-) The sad part is that Gumby believes it...passionately. I mean really - he named himself "Gumby" - isn't the answer in question? And he actually found a way to rationalize a major embarrassment such as the inability to spell to the level of a 5th grader. Was that ever been one of your PBC's? Would think that would be important in employee development skills. I recall it vaguely - when I was in middle school as something I thought important to develop. And with respect to "substance?" I'll let the post that said "you are [better] posting when you are drunk." 'Nuff said! Oh - and your "patent idea" - everyone would be confused...cause they'd look for their manual on their new "POS" but wouldn't be able to find it 'cause you'd spell "POS" wrong. And Jack - last I knew you had a real PROBLEM with alcohol. How's THAT going? Slick
> From: slickwillie999@gmail.com > Subject: Re: IIUG Board election results > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:37:00 -0800 > To: informix-list@iiug.org > > > The sad part is that Gumby believes it...passionately. I mean really - The sad part is that you don't believe that there is a difference between the meaning of embedded and integrated. And which engineering school did you attend? And how many embedded systems have you worked on? (And when I say embedded, I do mean embedded) But hey! What do I know? I mean I am responding to Mark... _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join
> From: slickwillie999@gmail.com [SNIP] Mark, Lets get to the root of the issue. You started this thread as an attack on Stuart Litel and the IIUG. You made some very serious accusations which are off the mark. As I've said, Stuart aint a saint, but he has not done anything illegal or illicit in my presence or to the best of my knowledge. So what happened that made you go off on this rant? Did you apply for an IIUG board nomination? Did you get rejected? Now why would the IIUG reject your nomination? Clearly you blame Stuart. But what if the real issue isn't Stuart? What if the issue is you? What could you possibly have done that would cause you to be so toxic? Now don't be modest. If it were just a personality contest, how would I have gotten on the board? Think real hard Mark. _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008