Re: flagship sunk

Posted in 2006

DA Morgan — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:52:36 -0800 — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix

Michael Segel wrote: > DA Morgan wrote: > > >>Michael Segel wrote: >> >> >>>>Perhaps you missed your companies purchase of TimesTen this year to >>>>help you compete in the embedded space. >>> >>> >>>Rumor has it, Oracle picked up TimesTen in a firesale. >>>You should focus on your own products than worry about Oracle's in memory >>>gafs. >> >>Picking up a product for a good price is now a sin? Perhaps we should >>revisit how IBM got Informix. The difference is that Oracle is heavily >>promoting TimesTen. Perhaps you didn't notice because you are shivering >>in a very cold wind. > > LOL... > > Sometimes there's a reason why it was at "firesale" prices. > > 1) Nobody wanted it. > > 2) Only one or two potential buyers could afford to pay the asking price or > to make at least a competitive offer. > > 3) The seller didn't know his product's true value. > > > Oh and to your point... Just because a guy's pushing snake oil doesn't mean > its a good product. > > But hey what do I know? You for 4) ... the snake oil salesman made a huge blunder putting himself in legal jeopardy. If you think TimesTen is valueless ... you should see the transaction benchmarks. If Oracle does what I expect it will do ... TPC benchark values will change by more than an order of magnitude. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)

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Serge Rielau — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:58:06 -0500 — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix

DA Morgan wrote: > Michael Segel wrote: > >> DA Morgan wrote: >> >> >>> Michael Segel wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> Perhaps you missed your companies purchase of TimesTen this year to >>>>> help you compete in the embedded space. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rumor has it, Oracle picked up TimesTen in a firesale. >>>> You should focus on your own products than worry about Oracle's in >>>> memory >>>> gafs. >>> >>> >>> Picking up a product for a good price is now a sin? Perhaps we should >>> revisit how IBM got Informix. The difference is that Oracle is heavily >>> promoting TimesTen. Perhaps you didn't notice because you are shivering >>> in a very cold wind. >> >> >> LOL... >> >> Sometimes there's a reason why it was at "firesale" prices. >> >> 1) Nobody wanted it. >> >> 2) Only one or two potential buyers could afford to pay the asking >> price or >> to make at least a competitive offer. >> >> 3) The seller didn't know his product's true value. >> >> >> Oh and to your point... Just because a guy's pushing snake oil doesn't >> mean >> its a good product. >> But hey what do I know? > > > You for 4) ... the snake oil salesman made a huge blunder putting > himself in legal jeopardy. If you think TimesTen is valueless ... > you should see the transaction benchmarks. If Oracle does what I > expect it will do ... TPC benchark values will change by more than > an order of magnitude. Vaporware until we see it on www.tpc.org. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development DB2 UDB for Linux, Unix, Windows IBM Toronto Lab

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John Carlson — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:40:16 -0500 — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:58:06 -0500, Serge Rielau <srielau@ca.ibm.com> wrote: >> >> You for 4) ... the snake oil salesman made a huge blunder putting >> himself in legal jeopardy. If you think TimesTen is valueless ... >> you should see the transaction benchmarks. If Oracle does what I >> expect it will do ... TPC benchark values will change by more than >> an order of magnitude. >Vaporware until we see it on www.tpc.org. > So TPC benchmarks are important? I've been saying that for a while now . . . JWC