IBM Informix - 4gl Installed in the same directory
A user installed Informix 11.70FC7IE (Innovator-C) and I4GL RDS 7.50.FC5 into the same INFORMIXDIR on RHEL 5.3: fglpc compiled fine, but fglgo segfaulted; installing 4GL into a separate directory worked. Art Kagel explained that the tools (I4GL, R4GL, ISQL) were last built against CSDK 3.50.FC2 and are no longer library-compatible with newer engine/CSDK builds, so they can't share an INFORMIXDIR (installing tools over the engine can even break engine startup). The recommended options were to keep separate directories, file a feature request with IBM, or migrate to a 4GL clone (Genero, Lycia, Aubit4GL). No fix for same-directory installation was reported.
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Hello guys!
Other time, I have a question about informix and 4gl.
I've installed Informix Innovator-C Edition 11.70FC7IE and Informix 4GL RDS
Development 7.50.FC5 Linux x86 64 Bit in the same directory.
When I compile with fglpc I don´t have any problem but when I try to execute
with fglgo I get this message: "segmentation fault".
SO is Linux Red Hat Enterprise 5.3
The enviromnment variables are:
export INFORMIXDIR=/home/informix
export INFORMIXSERVER=mision
export ONCONFIG=onconfig.$INFORMIXSERVER
export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=$INFORMIXDIR/etc/sqlhosts
export PATH=/bin:/sbin:$PATH:.:$INFORMIXDIR/binexport
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/lib:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/esql:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/tools:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
Also, for other test, I installed 4gl in other directory too, changing
environment variables to:
export INFORMIXDIR=/home/informix/4gl
export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=/home/informix/etc/sqlhostsexport
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/lib:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/esql:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/tools:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
And with this way, the compilation and execute are ok. I don't get errors.
My applications needs that the Informix Server and 4GL are intalled in the
same directory, thats the reason for I don't want to work with the second
option.
Could anyone help me?
Regards.
Hi.
If you installed CSDK. Try re-installing 4GL and IDS with out sdk.
Luis Panozzo
On 08/08/2013, at 20:04, "LICU GARCIA" <licu99@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys!
>
> Other time, I have a question about informix and 4gl.
>
> I've installed Informix Innovator-C Edition 11.70FC7IE and Informix 4GL RDS
> Development 7.50.FC5 Linux x86 64 Bit in the same directory.
> When I compile with fglpc I don´t have any problem but when I try to execute
> with fglgo I get this message: "segmentation fault".
>
> SO is Linux Red Hat Enterprise 5.3
>
> The enviromnment variables are:
>
> export INFORMIXDIR=/home/informix
> export INFORMIXSERVER=mision
> export ONCONFIG=onconfig.$INFORMIXSERVER
> export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=$INFORMIXDIR/etc/sqlhosts
> export PATH=/bin:/sbin:$PATH:.:$INFORMIXDIR/bin> export
>
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/lib:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/esql:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/tools:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
>
> Also, for other test, I installed 4gl in other directory too, changing
> environment variables to:
>
> export INFORMIXDIR=/home/informix/4gl
> export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=/home/informix/etc/sqlhosts> export
>
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/lib:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/esql:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/tools:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
>
> And with this way, the compilation and execute are ok. I don't get errors.
>
> My applications needs that the Informix Server and 4GL are intalled in the
> same directory, thats the reason for I don't want to work with the second
> option.
>
> Could anyone help me?
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
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Informix tools (so I4GL, R4GL, and ISQL ) can no longer be installed in the
same INFORMIXDIR as the database server itself. This is because IBM has
made the decision that the last compile of these tools (IB it was with the
CSDK v3.50.FC2) is the last compile. I was told that they "have no plans
to recompile the tools with the latest CSDK versions after that one."
Since some objects were moved from library to library and some internal
function signatures have changed in the later CSDK versions, the tools are
no longer compatible with the engine. Whichever is installed first -
whether tools or engine - will not run because of the shared library
incompatibility.
Here's the strangest one: I have a client who builds lots of custom
sperform runners. If the runners contain any ESQL/C code, they have to be
compiles in the engine's environment as static executables. These runners
can then run in either the ISQL/tools environment or the engine's
environment.
I would suggest that you port your 4GL applications to one of the 4GL
clones: 4Js Genero, Querix Lycia-II, or Aubit4GL. Genero is sold and
supported by IBM. Lycia is less expensive than Genero and Aubit4GL is open
source and so free. Any of these will compile and run your 4GL source at
least as well as original Informix 4GL, will save you on support costs
(even after the new purchase in the case of Lycia and Aubit4GL), and will
be able to present your apps in GUI mode. Lycia and Genero can also
present your 4GL applications as web apps and on mobile devices (not sure
if Aubit4GL got there yet - they were close last time I checked) and
completely modernize them with little effort.
Art
Art S. Kagel
Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com)
Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions
and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any
other organization with which I am associated either explicitly,
implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of
other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor
those of the entities themselves.
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:04 PM, LICU GARCIA <licu99@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys!
>
> Other time, I have a question about informix and 4gl.
>
> I've installed Informix Innovator-C Edition 11.70FC7IE and Informix 4GL RDS
> Development 7.50.FC5 Linux x86 64 Bit in the same directory.
> When I compile with fglpc I don´t have any problem but when I try to
> execute
> with fglgo I get this message: "segmentation fault".
>
> SO is Linux Red Hat Enterprise 5.3
>
> The enviromnment variables are:
>
> export INFORMIXDIR=/home/informix
> export INFORMIXSERVER=mision
> export ONCONFIG=onconfig.$INFORMIXSERVER
> export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=$INFORMIXDIR/etc/sqlhosts
> export PATH=/bin:/sbin:$PATH:.:$INFORMIXDIR/bin> export
>
>
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/lib:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/esql:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/tools:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
>
> Also, for other test, I installed 4gl in other directory too, changing
> environment variables to:
>
> export INFORMIXDIR=/home/informix/4gl
> export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=/home/informix/etc/sqlhosts> export
>
>
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/lib:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/esql:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/tools:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
>
> And with this way, the compilation and execute are ok. I don't get errors.
>
> My applications needs that the Informix Server and 4GL are intalled in the
> same directory, thats the reason for I don't want to work with the second
> option.
>
> Could anyone help me?
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
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> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
>
>
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NO! Installing tools over the engine will likely cause the engine to not
be able to startup. See my previous post.
Art
Art S. Kagel
Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com)
Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions
and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any
other organization with which I am associated either explicitly,
implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of
other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor
those of the entities themselves.
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Luis Panozzo <lupasa@sisa.com.bo> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> If you installed CSDK. Try re-installing 4GL and IDS with out sdk.
>
> Luis Panozzo
>
> On 08/08/2013, at 20:04, "LICU GARCIA" <licu99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello guys!
> >
> > Other time, I have a question about informix and 4gl.
> >
> > I've installed Informix Innovator-C Edition 11.70FC7IE and Informix 4GL
> RDS
> > Development 7.50.FC5 Linux x86 64 Bit in the same directory.
> > When I compile with fglpc I don´t have any problem but when I try to
> execute
> > with fglgo I get this message: "segmentation fault".
> >
> > SO is Linux Red Hat Enterprise 5.3
> >
> > The enviromnment variables are:
> >
> > export INFORMIXDIR=/home/informix
> > export INFORMIXSERVER=mision
> > export ONCONFIG=onconfig.$INFORMIXSERVER
> > export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=$INFORMIXDIR/etc/sqlhosts
> > export PATH=/bin:/sbin:$PATH:.:$INFORMIXDIR/bin> > export
> >
>
>
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/lib:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/esql:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/tools:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
> >
> > Also, for other test, I installed 4gl in other directory too, changing
> > environment variables to:
> >
> > export INFORMIXDIR=/home/informix/4gl
> > export INFORMIXSQLHOSTS=/home/informix/etc/sqlhosts> > export
> >
>
>
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${INFORMIXDIR}/lib:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/esql:${INFORMIXDIR}/lib/tools:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
> >
> > And with this way, the compilation and execute are ok. I don't get
> errors.
> >
> > My applications needs that the Informix Server and 4GL are intalled in
> the
> > same directory, thats the reason for I don't want to work with the second
> > option.
> >
> > Could anyone help me?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
> >
>
>
>
>
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Thank you, Art Kagel: I didn't know that. I must make a decision. Regards.
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= =3E whether tools or engine - will not run because of the shared library= = =3E incompatibility=2E = =3E = =3E Here=27s the strangest one=3A I have a client who builds lots of cus= tom = =3E sperform runners=2E If the runners contain any ESQL/C code=2C they h= ave to be = =3E compiles in the engine=27s environment as static executables=2E Thes= e runners = =3E can then run in either the ISQL/tools environment or the engine=27s = =3E environment=2E = =3E = =3E I would suggest that you port your 4GL applications to one of the 4G= L = =3E clones=3A 4Js Genero=2C Querix Lycia-II=2C or Aubit4GL=2E Genero is = sold and = =3E supported by IBM=2E Lycia is less expensive than Genero and Aubit4GL= is open = =3E source and so free=2E Any of these will compile and run your 4GL sou= rce at = =3E least as well as original Informix 4GL=2C will save you on support c= osts = =3E (even after the new purchase in the case of Lycia and Aubit4GL)=2C a= nd will = =3E be able to present your apps in GUI mode=2E Lycia and Genero can als= o = =3E present your 4GL applications as web apps and on mobile devices (not= sure = =3E if Aubit4GL got there yet - they were close last time I checked) and= = =3E completely modernize them with little effort=2E = =3E = =3E Art = =3E = =3E Art S=2E Kagel = =3E Advanced DataTools (www=2Eadvancedatatools=2Ecom) = =3E Blog=3A --Boundary_(ID_5IA0KKwurMGNkSmh+xGeYA)
I spoke with IBM about this in early July and got the answer I posted "there are no plans ...". Certainly you can call and ask yourself if this has since been resolved and let us know. It would also be a good idea to enter a feature request (there is now an IBM Feature Request web page or you can just call support) for the tools you use (I4GL, R4GL, & ISQL) to be kept compatible with the current releases of the Informix Database engine. Personally I think that IBM has made a serious mistake on this. Historically, the tools are an important part of the Informix universe. The original company was Relational Database Systems and its original product, after CISAM (yes an Informix product) was the ISQL & 4GL application development environments which happened to come with a relational database built over CISAM. That database was what today is known as Informix Standard Engine and you got it free when you bought ISQL and/or 4GL. Originally you couldn't even buy the relational database separately! It was shortly after they realized the power and popularity of the Informix 4GL and Informix SQL products that they renamed the company to Informix Software back in 1983 or so. These "tools" aren't just legacy products, they are a Legacy. Anyway, I'm encouraging everyone who uses "tools" to enter a feature request to "Keep ISQL, C4GL, and R4GL installation and run time compatible with being installed in the same INFORMIXDIR with all currently supported Informix Dynamic Server database server software and CSDK releases". Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM, francois.denommee@videotron.ca < francois.denommee@videotron.ca> wrote: > = > > Art=2C > = > > Is there a chance IBM made a fix with more recent versions=2C cf IDS 12=2E= > 10 and CSDK 4=2E1 with informix 7=2E50 tools =3F Below an extract of on= > e support page = > > = > > http=3A//pic=2Edhe=2Eibm=2Ecom/infocenter/informix/v121/index=2Ejsp=3Fto= > pic=3D=252Fcom=2Eibm=2Epo=2Edoc=252Fproducts=2Ehtm > = > > IBM=AE Informix=AE 12=2E10 = > > Product versions = > > The Informix=AE family of products consists of the database server=2C ad= > ministration tools=2C client products=2C and more=2E > = > > For information about the kind of support available for your product ver= > sion=2C go to the Information Management Product Lifecycle page at http=3A= > //informix-myview=2Eblogspot=2Ecom/(http=3A//www=2Eibm=2Ecom/software/da= > ta/support/lifecycle/=22 target=3D=5Fblank=3Ehttp=3A//www=2Eibm=2Ecom/so= > ftware/data/support/lifecycle/=2E > Informix servers = > > IBM=AE Informix 12=2E10=2ExC1 = > > Client products = > > IBM Informix Client Software Development Kit=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > IBM Informix Connect=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > IBM Informix JDBC Driver=2C version 4=2E10=2EJC1 > IBM Data Server Driver for JDBC and SQLJ=2C version 3=2E59 > IBM Data Server Driver for ODBC and CLI=2C version 10=2E1=2E2 > IBM Data Server Provider for =2ENET=2C version 10=2E1=2E2 (Windows onl= > y) > IBM Informix DataBlade=AE Developers Kit (DBDK)=2C version 4=2E20=2ExC= > 1 > IBM Informix BladeManager=2C version 4=2E20=2ExC1 > IBM Informix OLE DB Provider=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > DataBlade modules = > > IBM Informix Excalibur Text Search DataBlade=2C version 1=2E31=2ExC1 > IBM Informix Web DataBlade Module=2C version 4=2E13=2ExC4 > Sample spatial data disks > > Globalization components = > > IBM Informix GLS=2C version 6=2E00=2ExC1 > IBM Informix International Language Supplement=2C version 3=2E50=2EMC7= > > Informix tools = > > IBM Informix 4GL=2C version 7=2E50=2ExC6 > IBM Informix Genero=AE=2C version 2=2E41 > IBM OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) for Informix=2C version 3=2E11=2C which inclu= > des the following plug-in components=3A = > > IBM Informix Health Advisor Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > IBM Informix Replication Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > IBM Informix Schema Manager Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > IBM Informix TimeSeries Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > IBM Mobile OpenAdmin Tool for Informix=2C version 1=2E1 > > Informix solutions = > > IBM Informix Warehouse Accelerator=2C version 12=2E10=2ExC1 > IBM Informix SQL Warehousing Tool=2C version 11=2E50 (supported by Inf= > ormix 11=2E50=2ExC3 and later versions) > > Informix virtual images = > > IBM Informix Enterprise Hypervisor Edition 12=2E10=2EFC1 > IBM Informix 12=2E10=2ExC1 Virtual Appliance > > Additional IBM software = > > The following IBM products are provided in the package of some Informix = > editions=2E You can learn more about these products on ibm=2Ecom=AE=2E > = > > IBM Cognos=AE BI 10=2E2 > IBM Data Studio 3=2E2 > IBM Mobile Database 7=2E0 > IBM Mobile Database Sync 1=2E0 > IBM SPSS=AE Desktop 21 > IBM SPSS Modeler 15 = > > = > > Regards > = > > Francois Denommee > = > > Le 08/08/13=2C Art Kagel =3Cart=2Ekagel=40gmail=2Ecom=3E a =E9crit =3A = > > =3E Informix tools (so I4GL=2C R4GL=2C and ISQL ) can no longer be inst= > alled in the = > > =3E same INFORMIXDIR as the database server itself=2E This is because IB= > M has = > > =3E made the decision that the last compile of these tools (IB it was wi= > th the = > > =3E CSDK v3=2E50=2EFC2) is the last compile=2E I was told that they =22h= > ave no plans = > > =3E to recompile the tools with the latest CSDK versions after that one=2E= > =22 = > > =3E Since some objects were moved from library to library and some inter= > nal = > > =3E function signatures have changed in the later CSDK versions=2C the t= > ools are = > > =3E no longer compatible with the engine=2E Whichever is installed first= > - = > > =3E whether tools or engine - will not run because of the shared library= > = > > =3E incompatibility=2E = > > =3E = > > =3E Here=27s the strangest one=3A I have a client who builds lots of cus= > tom = > > =3E sperform runners=2E If the runners contain any ESQL/C code=2C they h= > ave to be = > > =3E compiles in the engine=27s environment as static executables=2E Thes= > e runners = > > =3E can then run in either the ISQL/tools environment or the engine=27s = > > =3E environment=2E = > > =3E = > > =3E I would suggest that you port your 4GL applications to one of the 4G= > L = > > =3E clones=3A 4Js Genero=2C Querix Lycia-II=2C or Aubit4GL=2E Genero is = > sold and = > > =3E supported by IBM=2E Lycia is less expensive than Genero and Aubit4GL= > is open = > > =3E source and so free=2E Any o
How do they expect to port 4gl etc to later OS versions which required later compiler versions? Regards, David. On 09 August 2013 at 14:48 Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote: > I spoke with IBM about this in early July and got the answer I posted > "there are no plans ...". Certainly you can call and ask yourself if this > has since been resolved and let us know. It would also be a good idea to > enter a feature request (there is now an IBM Feature Request web page or > you can just call support) for the tools you use (I4GL, R4GL, & ISQL) to be > kept compatible with the current releases of the Informix Database engine. > > Personally I think that IBM has made a serious mistake on this. > Historically, the tools are an important part of the Informix universe. > The original company was Relational Database Systems and its original > product, after CISAM (yes an Informix product) was the ISQL & 4GL > application development environments which happened to come with a > relational database built over CISAM. That database was what today is > known as Informix Standard Engine and you got it free when you bought ISQL > and/or 4GL. Originally you couldn't even buy the relational database > separately! It was shortly after they realized the power and popularity of > the Informix 4GL and Informix SQL products that they renamed the company to > Informix Software back in 1983 or so. These "tools" aren't just legacy > products, they are a Legacy. > > Anyway, I'm encouraging everyone who uses "tools" to enter a feature > request to "Keep ISQL, C4GL, and R4GL installation and run time compatible > with being installed in the same INFORMIXDIR with all currently supported > Informix Dynamic Server database server software and CSDK releases". > > Art > > Art S. Kagel > Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions > and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any > other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, > implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of > other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor > those of the entities themselves. > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM, francois.denommee@videotron.ca < > francois.denommee@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > = > > > > Art=2C > > = > > > > Is there a chance IBM made a fix with more recent versions=2C cf IDS 12=2E= > > 10 and CSDK 4=2E1 with informix 7=2E50 tools =3F Below an extract of on= > > e support page = > > > > = > > > > http=3A//pic=2Edhe=2Eibm=2Ecom/infocenter/informix/v121/index=2Ejsp=3Fto= > > pic=3D=252Fcom=2Eibm=2Epo=2Edoc=252Fproducts=2Ehtm > > = > > > > IBM=AE Informix=AE 12=2E10 = > > > > Product versions = > > > > The Informix=AE family of products consists of the database server=2C ad= > > ministration tools=2C client products=2C and more=2E > > = > > > > For information about the kind of support available for your product ver= > > sion=2C go to the Information Management Product Lifecycle page at http=3A= > > //informix-myview=2Eblogspot=2Ecom/(http=3A//www=2Eibm=2Ecom/software/da= > > ta/support/lifecycle/=22 target=3D=5Fblank=3Ehttp=3A//www=2Eibm=2Ecom/so= > > ftware/data/support/lifecycle/=2E > > Informix servers = > > > > IBM=AE Informix 12=2E10=2ExC1 = > > > > Client products = > > > > IBM Informix Client Software Development Kit=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix Connect=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix JDBC Driver=2C version 4=2E10=2EJC1 > > IBM Data Server Driver for JDBC and SQLJ=2C version 3=2E59 > > IBM Data Server Driver for ODBC and CLI=2C version 10=2E1=2E2 > > IBM Data Server Provider for =2ENET=2C version 10=2E1=2E2 (Windows onl= > > y) > > IBM Informix DataBlade=AE Developers Kit (DBDK)=2C version 4=2E20=2ExC= > > 1 > > IBM Informix BladeManager=2C version 4=2E20=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix OLE DB Provider=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > > > DataBlade modules = > > > > IBM Informix Excalibur Text Search DataBlade=2C version 1=2E31=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix Web DataBlade Module=2C version 4=2E13=2ExC4 > > Sample spatial data disks > > > > Globalization components = > > > > IBM Informix GLS=2C version 6=2E00=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix International Language Supplement=2C version 3=2E50=2EMC7= > > > > Informix tools = > > > > IBM Informix 4GL=2C version 7=2E50=2ExC6 > > IBM Informix Genero=AE=2C version 2=2E41 > > IBM OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) for Informix=2C version 3=2E11=2C which inclu= > > des the following plug-in components=3A = > > > > IBM Informix Health Advisor Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > IBM Informix Replication Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > IBM Informix Schema Manager Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > IBM Informix TimeSeries Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > > > IBM Mobile OpenAdmin Tool for Informix=2C version 1=2E1 > > > > Informix solutions = > > > > IBM Informix Warehouse Accelerator=2C version 12=2E10=2ExC1 > > IBM Informix SQL Warehousing Tool=2C version 11=2E50 (supported by Inf= > > ormix 11=2E50=2ExC3 and later versions) > > > > Informix virtual images = > > > > IBM Informix Enterprise Hypervisor Edition 12=2E10=2EFC1 > > IBM Informix 12=2E10=2ExC1 Virtual Appliance > > > > Additional IBM software = > > > > The following IBM products are provided in the package of some Informix = > > editions=2E You can learn more about these products on ibm=2Ecom=AE=2E > > = > > > > IBM Cognos=AE BI 10=2E2 > > IBM Data Studio 3=2E2 > > IBM Mobile Database 7=2E0 > > IBM Mobile Database Sync 1=2E0 > > IBM SPSS=AE Desktop 21 > > IBM SPSS Modeler 15 = > > > > = > > > > Regards > > = > > > > Francois Denommee > > = > > > > Le 08/08/13=2C Art Kagel =3Cart=2Ekagel=40gmail=2Ecom=3E a =E9crit =3A = > > > > =3E Informix tools (so I4GL=2C R4GL=2C and ISQL ) can no longer be inst= > > alled in the = > > > > =3E same INFORMIXDIR as the database server itself=2E This is because IB= > > M has = > > > > =3E made the decision that the last compile of these tools (IB it was wi= > > th the = > > > > =3E CSDK v3=2E50=2EFC2) is the last compile=2E I was told that they =22h= > > ave no plans = > > > > =3E to recompile the tools with the latest CSDK versions after that one=2E= > > =22 = > > > > =3E Since some objects were moved from library to library and some inter= > > nal = > > > > =3E function signatures have changed in the later CSDK versions=2C the t= > > ools are = > > > > =3E no longer compatible with the engine=2E Whichever is installed first= > > - = > > > > =3E whether tools or engine - will not run because of the shared library= > > = > > > > =3E incompatibility=2E = > > > > =3E = > > > > =3E Here=27s the strangest one=3A I have a client who builds lots of cus= > > tom = > > > > =3E sperform runners=2E If the runners contain any ESQL/C code=2C they h= > > ave to be = > > > > =3E compiles in
REALLY good question. Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM, david@smooth1.co.uk <david@smooth1.co.uk>wrote: > ** > > How do they expect to port 4gl etc to later OS versions which required > later compiler versions? > > Regards, > David. > > On 09 August 2013 at 14:48 Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote: > > I spoke with IBM about this in early July and got the answer I posted > > "there are no plans ...". Certainly you can call and ask yourself if > this > > has since been resolved and let us know. It would also be a good idea to > > enter a feature request (there is now an IBM Feature Request web page or > > you can just call support) for the tools you use (I4GL, R4GL, & ISQL) to > be > > kept compatible with the current releases of the Informix Database > engine. > > > > Personally I think that IBM has made a serious mistake on this. > > Historically, the tools are an important part of the Informix universe. > > The original company was Relational Database Systems and its original > > product, after CISAM (yes an Informix product) was the ISQL & 4GL > > application development environments which happened to come with a > > relational database built over CISAM. That database was what today is > > known as Informix Standard Engine and you got it free when you bought > ISQL > > and/or 4GL. Originally you couldn't even buy the relational database > > separately! It was shortly after they realized the power and popularity > of > > the Informix 4GL and Informix SQL products that they renamed the company > to > > Informix Software back in 1983 or so. These "tools" aren't just legacy > > products, they are a Legacy. > > > > Anyway, I'm encouraging everyone who uses "tools" to enter a feature > > request to "Keep ISQL, C4GL, and R4GL installation and run time > compatible > > with being installed in the same INFORMIXDIR with all currently > supported > > Informix Dynamic Server database server software and CSDK releases". > > > > Art > > > > Art S. Kagel > > Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ > > > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions > > and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any > > other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, > > implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of > > other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated > nor > > those of the entities themselves. > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM, francois.denommee@videotron.ca < > > francois.denommee@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > > > = > > > > > > Art=2C > > > = > > > > > > Is there a chance IBM made a fix with more recent versions=2C cf IDS > 12=2E= > > > 10 and CSDK 4=2E1 with informix 7=2E50 tools =3F Below an extract of > on= > > > e support page = > > > > > > = > > > > > > > http=3A//pic=2Edhe=2Eibm=2Ecom/infocenter/informix/v121/index=2Ejsp=3Fto= > > > pic=3D=252Fcom=2Eibm=2Epo=2Edoc=252Fproducts=2Ehtm > > > = > > > > > > IBM=AE Informix=AE 12=2E10 = > > > > > > Product versions = > > > > > > The Informix=AE family of products consists of the database server=2C > ad= > > > ministration tools=2C client products=2C and more=2E > > > = > > > > > > For information about the kind of support available for your product > ver= > > > sion=2C go to the Information Management Product Lifecycle page at > http=3A= > > > > //informix-myview=2Eblogspot=2Ecom/(http=3A//www=2Eibm=2Ecom/software/da= > > > ta/support/lifecycle/=22 > target=3D=5Fblank=3Ehttp=3A//www=2Eibm=2Ecom/so= > > > ftware/data/support/lifecycle/=2E > > > Informix servers = > > > > > > IBM=AE Informix 12=2E10=2ExC1 = > > > > > > Client products = > > > > > > IBM Informix Client Software Development Kit=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > > IBM Informix Connect=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > > IBM Informix JDBC Driver=2C version 4=2E10=2EJC1 > > > IBM Data Server Driver for JDBC and SQLJ=2C version 3=2E59 > > > IBM Data Server Driver for ODBC and CLI=2C version 10=2E1=2E2 > > > IBM Data Server Provider for =2ENET=2C version 10=2E1=2E2 (Windows > onl= > > > y) > > > IBM Informix DataBlade=AE Developers Kit (DBDK)=2C version > 4=2E20=2ExC= > > > 1 > > > IBM Informix BladeManager=2C version 4=2E20=2ExC1 > > > IBM Informix OLE DB Provider=2C version 4=2E10=2ExC1 > > > > > > DataBlade modules = > > > > > > IBM Informix Excalibur Text Search DataBlade=2C version 1=2E31=2ExC1 > > > IBM Informix Web DataBlade Module=2C version 4=2E13=2ExC4 > > > Sample spatial data disks > > > > > > Globalization components = > > > > > > IBM Informix GLS=2C version 6=2E00=2ExC1 > > > IBM Informix International Language Supplement=2C version > 3=2E50=2EMC7= > > > > > > Informix tools = > > > > > > IBM Informix 4GL=2C version 7=2E50=2ExC6 > > > IBM Informix Genero=AE=2C version 2=2E41 > > > IBM OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) for Informix=2C version 3=2E11=2C which > inclu= > > > des the following plug-in components=3A = > > > > > > IBM Informix Health Advisor Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > > IBM Informix Replication Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > > IBM Informix Schema Manager Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > > IBM Informix TimeSeries Plug-in for OpenAdmin Tool (OAT) > > > > > > IBM Mobile OpenAdmin Tool for Informix=2C version 1=2E1 > > > > > > Informix solutions = > > > > > > IBM Informix Warehouse Accelerator=2C version 12=2E10=2ExC1 > > > IBM Informix SQL Warehousing Tool=2C version 11=2E50 (supported by > Inf= > > > ormix 11=2E50=2ExC3 and later versions) > > > > > > Informix virtual images = > > > > > > IBM Informix Enterprise Hypervisor Edition 12=2E10=2EFC1 > > > IBM Informix 12=2E10=2ExC1 Virtual Appliance > > > > > > Additional IBM software = > > > > > > The following IBM products are provided in the package of some > Informix = > > > editions=2E You can learn more about these products on ibm=2Ecom=AE=2E > > > = > > > > > > IBM Cognos=AE BI 10=2E2 > > > IBM Data Studio 3=2E2 > > > IBM Mobile Database 7=2E0 > > > IBM Mobile Database Sync 1=2E0 > > > IBM SPSS=AE Desktop 21 > > > IBM SPSS Modeler 15 = > > > > > > = > > > > > > Regards > > > = > > > > > > Francois Denommee > > > = > > > > > > Le 08/08/13=2C Art Kagel =3Cart=2Ekagel=40gmail=2Ecom=3E a =E9crit =3A > = > > > > > > =3E Informix tools (so I4GL=2C R4GL=2C and ISQL ) can no longer be > inst= > > > alled in