Re: sybase looks to be in even worse shape than informix

On Sep 10, 1:38 pm, Serge Rielau <srie...@ca.ibm.com> wrote: > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > I wonder why IBM never tried to implement a Sybase take out strategy. > > Oracle did and it was pretty successful to a point. There are still a > > couple of hard core sybase shops hanging around. > > That was before your time at IBM. DB2 V7.1 was all about Sybase: > IDENTITY columns, SQL PL procedures, inline SQL PL, Global Temp Tables, > Sybase migration toolkit. > > Sitting in class right now teaching several Wallstreet customers DB2 > Vnext. So, can't complain about lack of success to get them over and > stick with us. > > Cheers > Serge > -- > Serge Rielau > DB2 Solutions Development > IBM Toronto Lab LOL... And I just got a call from yet another recruiter looking for Java and Oracle skills at yet another financial house. (I lost count at how many financial houses want C# and .net expertise...) And of course, lets not forget about the Financial shops that run IDS. I know of one that should have at least two Premiere Services folks on site... (or was it 3? ) ;-) The point Serge is that when IBM bought IDS and when IBM said that IDS was their go to platform for OLTP, IDS should be the platform to continue the Sybase take out.... BTW, there's an interesting financial shop here in Chicago that is still a Sybase shop. Looks like they didn't bite on the DB2 bid. ;-)

Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > On Sep 10, 1:38 pm, Serge Rielau <srie...@ca.ibm.com> wrote: >> Ian Michael Gumby wrote: >>> I wonder why IBM never tried to implement a Sybase take out strategy. >>> Oracle did and it was pretty successful to a point. There are still a >>> couple of hard core sybase shops hanging around. >> That was before your time at IBM. DB2 V7.1 was all about Sybase: >> IDENTITY columns, SQL PL procedures, inline SQL PL, Global Temp Tables, >> Sybase migration toolkit. >> >> Sitting in class right now teaching several Wallstreet customers DB2 >> Vnext. So, can't complain about lack of success to get them over and >> stick with us. >> >> Cheers >> Serge >> -- >> Serge Rielau >> DB2 Solutions Development >> IBM Toronto Lab > > LOL... > > And I just got a call from yet another recruiter looking for Java and > Oracle skills at yet another financial house. > (I lost count at how many financial houses want C# and .net > expertise...) > > And of course, lets not forget about the Financial shops that run IDS. > I know of one that should have at least two Premiere Services folks on > site... (or was it 3? ) ;-) > > The point Serge is that when IBM bought IDS and when IBM said that IDS > was their go to platform for OLTP, IDS should be the platform to > continue the Sybase take out.... > > BTW, there's an interesting financial shop here in Chicago that is > still a Sybase shop. Looks like they didn't bite on the DB2 bid. ;-) I did not claim DB2 got them all. I claim that IBM reacted, succeeded and still is successful in migrating Sybase. And the choice of DB2 was made when DB2 was the only choice and IDS was Informix. There is an interesting factoid here: If you invest (heavily) into Sybase migration you can tick up your share by 3%(?) at most because that's all there is. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab