Arggghhhh!!!!!!
Neil couldn't install Client SDK 3.50.FC9 on RHEL 5.8: the InstallShield installer failed with "could not load wizard specified in /wizard.inf (104)", and running with -javahome or -console just printed "Extracting Bundled JRE" and exited silently. Suggestions included an IBM technote, pointing -javahome at a real JRE, avoiding OpenJDK/FSF Java (install Sun/Oracle JDK), clearing JDK/JRE references from PATH or renaming the system java, checking disk space, and extracting the media as the informix user. A side debate covered why the installer needs Java at all. Neil ultimately gave up on that build and used a different CSDK version, whose bundled JRE worked with the -javahome workaround.
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I am frustrated because: 1. IBM continues to supply its products with Javashite for no good reason 2. I'm sure I've had this issue before but can't recall the solution. ClientSDK 3.50 FC9 on RHEL 5.8. How can I get this installation to work, or even do anything except give oblique messages? Thanks Neil root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Launching InstallShield Wizard........ The wizard cannot continue because of the following error: could not load wizard specified in /wizard.inf (104) root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome none -console Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Extracting Bundled JRE. root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap #
Hi Neil Try this: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21411203 Let me know if this resolves the issue. Regards! Pradeep Kutty Sr. Manager- DM Global Client Support - Informix,Warehouse Solutions and Analytics IBM Information Management Division Office: 913-599-7131 | Cell:913-653-1940 Email: pkutty@us.ibm.com Administrative Assistant Isabel Eisenburger (isabele@us.ibm.com) IBM is moving to Electronic Entry of Service Requests Learn about IBM Electronic Support Open a Service Request online My objective is to provide service that exceeds your expectations. If you have comments or suggestions, please contact my manager George Hill (gthill@us.ibm.com) , or contact your local Software Support Center to speak with a Duty Manager via http://www.ibm.com/planetwide/region.html. ----- Forwarded by Pradeep Kutty/Lenexa/IBM on 11/27/2012 07:45 PM ----- From: "NEIL TRUBY" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> To: ids@iiug.org, Date: 11/27/2012 07:33 PM Subject: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28930] Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org I am frustrated because: 1. IBM continues to supply its products with Javashite for no good reason 2. I'm sure I've had this issue before but can't recall the solution. ClientSDK 3.50 FC9 on RHEL 5.8. How can I get this installation to work, or even do anything except give oblique messages? Thanks Neil root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Launching InstallShield Wizard........ The wizard cannot continue because of the following error: could not load wizard specified in /wizard.inf (104) root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome none -console Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Extracting Bundled JRE. root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Hi Pradeep Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.6.0_22" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Extracting Bundled JRE. root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap #
Original post: I am frustrated because: 1. IBM continues to supply its products with Javashite for no good reason 2. I'm sure I've had this issue before but can't recall the solution. ClientSDK 3.50 FC9 on RHEL 5.8. How can I get this installation to work, or even do anything except give oblique messages? Thanks Neil root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Launching InstallShield Wizard........ The wizard cannot continue because of the following error: could not load wizard specified in /wizard.inf (104) root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome none -console Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Extracting Bundled JRE. root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # Response: Did you try this? (I assume it would also work for clientsdk as I think the below post is for the engine) http://www.iiug.org/forums/ids/index.cgi/read/28877 Jacques Renaut IBM Informix Advanced Support APD Team
Original Post: Original post: I am frustrated because: 1. IBM continues to supply its products with Javashite for no good reason 2. I'm sure I've had this issue before but can't recall the solution. ClientSDK 3.50 FC9 on RHEL 5.8. How can I get this installation to work, or even do anything except give oblique messages? Thanks Neil root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Launching InstallShield Wizard........ The wizard cannot continue because of the following error: could not load wizard specified in /wizard.inf (104) root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome none -console Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Extracting Bundled JRE. root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # Response: Did you try this? (I assume it would also work for clientsdk as I think the below post is for the engine) http://www.iiug.org/forums/ids/index.cgi/read/28877 Jacques Renaut IBM Informix Advanced Support APD Team Response: Opps, too early for me I guess, as it clearly shows it looks like you did try it. Sorry. Jacques Renaut IBM Informix Advanced Support APD Team
Try installing the Oracle JDK (formerly Sun) - gotta to love the irony that you have install a competitor's product, something you don't actually want, just to get the install to work. Try installing IDS on a minimum Linux install without internet access - it can takes hours just to get the install to run Oh and once you have your 64 hardware running 64 bit IDS, complete with the 64bit Java you don't want, try installing 64 bit 4gl - doesn't install unless you have the 32bit Java -what %^&%$^&%&*%*&!!!! Oh and Innovator (whatever the free version is called) FC5/6 and 4gl doesn't play nice - can't be installed in the same INFORMIXDIR - FC4 is fine Have a nice day IBM installation test team :) Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of NEIL TRUBY Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:19 AM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28933] Hi Pradeep Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.6.0_22" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Extracting Bundled JRE. root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # **************************************************************************** *** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Hi Neil, Very likely an existing JDK/JRE path, which is incompatible is interfering with installer's functionality. Can you check your path variable, for any reference to existing JDK/JRE installation? Temporarily remove it and retry installation. Note: - Some of the JDK/JREs cannot be used (for example FSF version). - Ensure your product media is complete as it normally ships with a JRE for installer. - In addition, check your disk space. Sundar. From: "NEIL TRUBY" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> To: ids@iiug.org, Date: 11/28/2012 03:22 AM Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28933] Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org Hi Pradeep Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.6.0_22" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Extracting Bundled JRE. root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Or the fact the installer relies on classes that don't exist in the openjdk ? But you miss the point - why do have to have a working Java environment to just install the $%^&*$^&*$%^* system especially when you have no intention of ever using Java And why does the 64 bit 4gl need a 32 bit Java installer Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Sundar Shunmugam Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:12 PM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28956] Hi Neil, Very likely an existing JDK/JRE path, which is incompatible is interfering with installer's functionality. Can you check your path variable, for any reference to existing JDK/JRE installation? Temporarily remove it and retry installation. Note: - Some of the JDK/JREs cannot be used (for example FSF version). - Ensure your product media is complete as it normally ships with a JRE for installer. - In addition, check your disk space. Sundar. From: "NEIL TRUBY" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> To: ids@iiug.org, Date: 11/28/2012 03:22 AM Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28933] Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org Hi Pradeep Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.6.0_22" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Extracting Bundled JRE. root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # **************************************************************************** *** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. **************************************************************************** *** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
The point is that you don't need a working Java environment. The installer is self contained... or should be, meaning it should provide it's own JRE. There is a downside to this, of course which is size and temp space required... But I don't miss the times where depending on the platform I had to use a different and strange command to uncompress something and then run a shell script with ever changing options... This should not serve as an excuse if/when there are bugs. But the Informix installation is great because: - Supports GUI, silent and console mode - Is simple to use - Has been consistent for some time - Runs fast - Doesn't need to link anything (some others do...) Oh... Of course I may be biased here... But you can be sure I install a lot of instances, clientSDK etc... And it works. :) Regards On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > Or the fact the installer relies on classes that don't exist in the openjdk > ? > > But you miss the point - why do have to have a working Java environment to > just install the $%^&*$^&*$%^* system especially when you have no intention > of ever using Java > > And why does the 64 bit 4gl need a 32 bit Java installer > > Cheers > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > Sundar > Shunmugam > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:12 PM > To: ids@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28956] > > Hi Neil, > > Very likely an existing JDK/JRE path, which is incompatible is interfering > with installer's functionality. > > Can you check your path variable, for any reference to existing JDK/JRE > installation? Temporarily remove it and retry installation. > > Note: > - Some of the JDK/JREs cannot be used (for example FSF version). > - Ensure your product media is complete as it normally ships with a JRE > for installer. > - In addition, check your disk space. > > Sundar. > > From: "NEIL TRUBY" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> > To: ids@iiug.org, > Date: 11/28/2012 03:22 AM > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28933] > Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > > Hi Pradeep > > Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version > java version "1.6.0_22" > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) > (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin > > Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ > > Extracting Bundled JRE. > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --047d7bea451c7d9ebc04cfa93b62
The point is the Java installer is NOT always self-contained !!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Fernando Nunes Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28959] The point is that you don't need a working Java environment. The installer is self contained... or should be, meaning it should provide it's own JRE. There is a downside to this, of course which is size and temp space required... But I don't miss the times where depending on the platform I had to use a different and strange command to uncompress something and then run a shell script with ever changing options... This should not serve as an excuse if/when there are bugs. But the Informix installation is great because: - Supports GUI, silent and console mode - Is simple to use - Has been consistent for some time - Runs fast - Doesn't need to link anything (some others do...) Oh... Of course I may be biased here... But you can be sure I install a lot of instances, clientSDK etc... And it works. :) Regards On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > Or the fact the installer relies on classes that don't exist in the openjdk > ? > > But you miss the point - why do have to have a working Java environment to > just install the $%^&*$^&*$%^* system especially when you have no intention > of ever using Java > > And why does the 64 bit 4gl need a 32 bit Java installer > > Cheers > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > Sundar > Shunmugam > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:12 PM > To: ids@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28956] > > Hi Neil, > > Very likely an existing JDK/JRE path, which is incompatible is interfering > with installer's functionality. > > Can you check your path variable, for any reference to existing JDK/JRE > installation? Temporarily remove it and retry installation. > > Note: > - Some of the JDK/JREs cannot be used (for example FSF version). > - Ensure your product media is complete as it normally ships with a JRE > for installer. > - In addition, check your disk space. > > Sundar. > > From: "NEIL TRUBY" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> > To: ids@iiug.org, > Date: 11/28/2012 03:22 AM > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28933] > Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > > Hi Pradeep > > Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version > java version "1.6.0_22" > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) > (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin > > Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ > > Extracting Bundled JRE. > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > **************************************************************************** *** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --047d7bea451c7d9ebc04cfa93b62 **************************************************************************** *** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
In that case, there is a bug. I haven't hit that one (recent installs on AIX, HP-UX, Linux). We must fix it, but for that it must be reported. I haven't followed the thread in detail. Was it? Regards. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > The point is the Java installer is NOT always self-contained !!!!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > Fernando Nunes > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM > To: ids@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28959] > > The point is that you don't need a working Java environment. The installer > is self contained... or should be, meaning it should provide it's own JRE. > There is a downside to this, of course which is size and temp space > required... > But I don't miss the times where depending on the platform I had to use a > different and strange command to uncompress something and then run a shell > script with ever changing options... > This should not serve as an excuse if/when there are bugs. But the Informix > installation is great because: > > - Supports GUI, silent and console mode > - Is simple to use > - Has been consistent for some time > - Runs fast > - Doesn't need to link anything (some others do...) > > Oh... Of course I may be biased here... But you can be sure I install a lot > of instances, clientSDK etc... And it works. :) > > Regards > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > > > Or the fact the installer relies on classes that don't exist in the > openjdk > > ? > > > > But you miss the point - why do have to have a working Java environment > to > > > just install the $%^&*$^&*$%^* system especially when you have no > intention > > of ever using Java > > > > And why does the 64 bit 4gl need a 32 bit Java installer > > > > Cheers > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > > Sundar > > Shunmugam > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:12 PM > > To: ids@iiug.org > > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28956] > > > > Hi Neil, > > > > Very likely an existing JDK/JRE path, which is incompatible is > interfering > > > with installer's functionality. > > > > Can you check your path variable, for any reference to existing JDK/JRE > > installation? Temporarily remove it and retry installation. > > > > Note: > > - Some of the JDK/JREs cannot be used (for example FSF version). > > - Ensure your product media is complete as it normally ships with a JRE > > for installer. > > - In addition, check your disk space. > > > > Sundar. > > > > From: "NEIL TRUBY" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> > > To: ids@iiug.org, > > Date: 11/28/2012 03:22 AM > > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28933] > > Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > > > > Hi Pradeep > > > > Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: > > > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version > > java version "1.6.0_22" > > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) > > (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) > > > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin > > > > Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ > > > > Extracting Bundled JRE. > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > *** > > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > *** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > -- > Fernando Nunes > Portugal > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > --047d7bea451c7d9ebc04cfa93b62 > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --047d7b678864bc378604cfa9ac39
No idea, it has been a compliant that has come and gone many times over the last 10 ?? years. Have you tried a minimal install on Linux ? AFAIK your installer uses the Sun JDK and there are classes mismatches with the open jre that most Linux's have. Of course why you have to have a working Java environment at all has always been a mystery to me Any error message than the one currently given would be more useful - how about 'ying yang fiddly flop' - more informative that the current one - and Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Fernando Nunes Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:19 PM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28961] In that case, there is a bug. I haven't hit that one (recent installs on AIX, HP-UX, Linux). We must fix it, but for that it must be reported. I haven't followed the thread in detail. Was it? Regards. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > The point is the Java installer is NOT always self-contained !!!!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > Fernando Nunes > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM > To: ids@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28959] > > The point is that you don't need a working Java environment. The installer > is self contained... or should be, meaning it should provide it's own JRE. > There is a downside to this, of course which is size and temp space > required... > But I don't miss the times where depending on the platform I had to use a > different and strange command to uncompress something and then run a shell > script with ever changing options... > This should not serve as an excuse if/when there are bugs. But the Informix > installation is great because: > > - Supports GUI, silent and console mode > - Is simple to use > - Has been consistent for some time > - Runs fast > - Doesn't need to link anything (some others do...) > > Oh... Of course I may be biased here... But you can be sure I install a lot > of instances, clientSDK etc... And it works. :) > > Regards > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > > > Or the fact the installer relies on classes that don't exist in the > openjdk > > ? > > > > But you miss the point - why do have to have a working Java environment > to > > > just install the $%^&*$^&*$%^* system especially when you have no > intention > > of ever using Java > > > > And why does the 64 bit 4gl need a 32 bit Java installer > > > > Cheers > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > > Sundar > > Shunmugam > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:12 PM > > To: ids@iiug.org > > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28956] > > > > Hi Neil, > > > > Very likely an existing JDK/JRE path, which is incompatible is > interfering > > > with installer's functionality. > > > > Can you check your path variable, for any reference to existing JDK/JRE > > installation? Temporarily remove it and retry installation. > > > > Note: > > - Some of the JDK/JREs cannot be used (for example FSF version). > > - Ensure your product media is complete as it normally ships with a JRE > > for installer. > > - In addition, check your disk space. > > > > Sundar. > > > > From: "NEIL TRUBY" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> > > To: ids@iiug.org, > > Date: 11/28/2012 03:22 AM > > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28933] > > Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > > > > Hi Pradeep > > > > Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: > > > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version > > java version "1.6.0_22" > > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) > > (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) > > > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin > > > > Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ > > > > Extracting Bundled JRE. > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > *** > > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > *** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > -- > Fernando Nunes > Portugal > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > --047d7bea451c7d9ebc04cfa93b62 > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > **************************************************************************** *** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --047d7b678864bc378604cfa9ac39 **************************************************************************** *** Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > No idea, it has been a compliant that has come and gone many times over the > last 10 ?? years. > The Java installer as we have it now doesn't have 10 years... But, yes, installer complaints come and go... some times because of bugs, many times because john doe likes the Java installer, Mr Foo Bar likes the old cpio stuff and so on... > > Have you tried a minimal install on Linux ? > > I have... and the switch -javahome none used to work, or simply change rename the system java command so that it doesn't find it (or create an alias to avoid any general system interference). > AFAIK your installer uses the Sun JDK and there are classes mismatches with > the open jre that most Linux's have. Of course why you have to have a > working Java environment at all has always been a mystery to me > Again... There is a switch or a fallback that is used if it can't find an environment. And the embedded JRE always worked for me. > > Any error message than the one currently given would be more useful - how > about 'ying yang fiddly flop' - more informative that the current one - and > > True. The more I think about it, the more a feeling grows... How did the OP uncompress the installer package? Using root or Informix? I'd say it *needs* to be informix... I have some memory of having problems because of this... I always uncompress as informix. During some parts of the installer we used to do a "su - informix" and it could raise problems with file system permissions... But this are just vague memories... > Cheers > Paul > > Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > Fernando Nunes > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:19 PM > To: ids@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28961] > > In that case, there is a bug. I haven't hit that one (recent installs on > AIX, HP-UX, Linux). > We must fix it, but for that it must be reported. I haven't followed the > thread in detail. Was it? > Regards. > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > > > The point is the Java installer is NOT always self-contained !!!!!!! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > > Fernando Nunes > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM > > To: ids@iiug.org > > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28959] > > > > The point is that you don't need a working Java environment. The > installer > > > is self contained... or should be, meaning it should provide it's own > JRE. > > > There is a downside to this, of course which is size and temp space > > required... > > But I don't miss the times where depending on the platform I had to use a > > different and strange command to uncompress something and then run a > shell > > > script with ever changing options... > > This should not serve as an excuse if/when there are bugs. But the > Informix > > installation is great because: > > > > - Supports GUI, silent and console mode > > - Is simple to use > > - Has been consistent for some time > > - Runs fast > > - Doesn't need to link anything (some others do...) > > > > Oh... Of course I may be biased here... But you can be sure I install a > lot > > of instances, clientSDK etc... And it works. :) > > > > Regards > > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote: > > > > > Or the fact the installer relies on classes that don't exist in the > > openjdk > > > ? > > > > > > But you miss the point - why do have to have a working Java environment > > to > > > > > just install the $%^&*$^&*$%^* system especially when you have no > > intention > > > of ever using Java > > > > > > And why does the 64 bit 4gl need a 32 bit Java installer > > > > > > Cheers > > > Paul > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > > > Sundar > > > Shunmugam > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:12 PM > > > To: ids@iiug.org > > > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28956] > > > > > > Hi Neil, > > > > > > Very likely an existing JDK/JRE path, which is incompatible is > > interfering > > > > > with installer's functionality. > > > > > > Can you check your path variable, for any reference to existing JDK/JRE > > > installation? Temporarily remove it and retry installation. > > > > > > Note: > > > - Some of the JDK/JREs cannot be used (for example FSF version). > > > - Ensure your product media is complete as it normally ships with a JRE > > > for installer. > > > - In addition, check your disk space. > > > > > > Sundar. > > > > > > From: "NEIL TRUBY" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> > > > To: ids@iiug.org, > > > Date: 11/28/2012 03:22 AM > > > Subject: Re: Arggghhhh!!!!!! [28933] > > > Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > > > > > > Hi Pradeep > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. Tried that too; it's just craps straight out: > > > > > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin/java -version > > > java version "1.6.0_22" > > > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.6) > > > (rhel-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8-x86_64) > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode) > > > > > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # ./installclientsdk -javahome > > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/bin > > > > > > Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ > > > > > > Extracting Bundled JRE. > > > root@01tst /export/home/trubyn/crap # > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > > > > *** > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > *** > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fernando Nunes > > Portugal > > > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com > > My email works... but I don't check it frequently... > > > > --047d7bea451c7d9ebc04cfa93b62 > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > *** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > >@@NL
Thanks everybody - even Paul ;-) - for replying. I fixed it by getting an underling to do it for me. I believe he gave up with this version and tried a different version of CSDK whose included Java engine did succumb to Fernando's workaround. cheers Neil