Re: Informix beats Oracle
Not a technical support thread — it's banter in an "Informix beats Oracle" discussion. Participants trade stories about running IDS (Cheetah) in tiny footprints: IIUG members installing Linux plus Informix on a bootable 4GB USB key, then shrinking it to a 512MB key (Ubuntu chosen for wireless support), while Madison Pruet counters that he ran 14 replicating instances on a 1GB laptop. The rest is an argument over whether attending the IIUG conference is worth the lost billable time. No technical problem is posed and no resolution is recorded.
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>From: "Andrew Ford" <aford@networkip.net> >And does this instance do anything? SQL Server, MS Access and IDS Cheetah >are installed and running on my laptop but they don't do anything >important. > >I recall some similar nerdery when certain members of the IIUG board got a >Cheetah instance up an running on a 512MB USB key (OS included) in between >sessions at the IIUG conference this year. > Uhm not exactly... This is the true story... Stuart Litel got a little bored and installed a linux OS and IDS on his 4GB key. (He actually downloaded the tarball to the key and unpacked everything there.) Marty Laurie thought it was a neat hack, then did Ubuntu Linux and IDS on an even smaller key. (I think that Marty figured out that you could unpack the tarball on the PC and just install on the key. ;-) And I'm not sure, but I think it was Alex K (???) in Germany who did the 512 MB key trick. Note to Timmy the Tool: Marty liked Ubuntu because it was the distro with the best support for wireless. And this is why you go to the conference. ;-) Sorry Daniel, I know a lot of Oracle techies and they just ain't cut of the same cloth as Informix fans. ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Don't miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > And this is why you go to the conference. ;-) > Why? If I took a week off to go to a conference I'd lose a week of billable, and also have to pay for lodging and the conference, all so that I can hang out with Informix geeks? Pretty expensive time that I cannot afford, and I'm not sure it's worth it until Informix really becomes a part of a bigger-than-3% market share. Until then I'll be more than happy to hear about yet another conference that was probably good, but does nothing for my bottom line. Glad to hear you had fun, but I'd rather spend my time off on a real vacation that doesn't involve a technology conference. -t- -- -- Informix Dynamic Server Database Engine -- http://www.informix.com --
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > >> From: "Andrew Ford" <aford@networkip.net> >> And does this instance do anything? SQL Server, MS Access and IDS >> Cheetah >> are installed and running on my laptop but they don't do anything >> important. >> >> I recall some similar nerdery when certain members of the IIUG board >> got a >> Cheetah instance up an running on a 512MB USB key (OS included) in >> between >> sessions at the IIUG conference this year. >> > Uhm not exactly... > > This is the true story... > > Stuart Litel got a little bored and installed a linux OS and IDS on his > 4GB key. > (He actually downloaded the tarball to the key and unpacked everything > there.) Shoot --- I was at the conference last year and got 14 instances up and running on my T40 (1GB memory) - with each of the instances replicating to each other using update anywhere. ;-) > > Marty Laurie thought it was a neat hack, then did Ubuntu Linux and IDS > on an even smaller key. > (I think that Marty figured out that you could unpack the tarball on the > PC and just install on the key. ;-) > > And I'm not sure, but I think it was Alex K (???) in Germany who did the > 512 MB key trick. > > Note to Timmy the Tool: Marty liked Ubuntu because it was the distro > with the best support for wireless. > > And this is why you go to the conference. ;-) > > Sorry Daniel, I know a lot of Oracle techies and they just ain't cut of > the same cloth as Informix fans. ;-) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from > Microsoft Office Live > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ >
>From: Tool <tool@thetool.com> >Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > And this is why you go to the conference. ;-) > > > > > > >Why? > >If I took a week off to go to a conference I'd lose a week of billable, >and also have to pay for lodging and the conference, all so that I can >hang out with Informix geeks? > >Pretty expensive time that I cannot afford, and I'm not sure it's worth >it until Informix really becomes a part of a bigger-than-3% market share. >Until then I'll be more than happy to hear about yet another conference >that was probably good, but does nothing for my bottom line. Glad to >hear you had fun, but I'd rather spend my time off on a real vacation >that doesn't involve a technology conference. > >-t- Now you see Timmy, this is why you'll never get ahead in life. Too much negative energy. (Too much negative waves. - Kelly's Heroes) :-P Its hard to explain the value of the Informix community. You get out what you put in. I come away from the conference thinking about ideas and things to try. Sometimes I feel sorry for guys like Daniel who'll never understand a sense of community. _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01
>From: Madison Pruet <mpruet1@verizon.net> >Shoot --- I was at the conference last year and got 14 instances up and >running on my T40 (1GB memory) - with each of the instances replicating to >each other using update anywhere. ;-) > Uhm, Madison, a T40 is a laptop. We're talking about a 4GB key fob that you can then boot off of from any IBM thinkpad or pc that allows you to boot from an USB key device. And this is now all on a 512MB key! If you commute between a SOHO and a main office, why carry a laptop? Just have your entire system on a memory fob and then boot from that ? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! http://mobile.msn.com
Tool wrote: > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > >> And this is why you go to the conference. ;-) I'm not going to the conference ... I'm putting on the conference. <g> 871 registered so far ... and this is just a small regional user group. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > >> From: Madison Pruet <mpruet1@verizon.net> >> Shoot --- I was at the conference last year and got 14 instances up >> and running on my T40 (1GB memory) - with each of the instances >> replicating to each other using update anywhere. ;-) >> > > Uhm, Madison, a T40 is a laptop. > We're talking about a 4GB key fob that you can then boot off of from any > IBM thinkpad or pc that allows you to boot from an USB key device. Yes - but there are several issues to working on a small footprint - the required disk space, the required CPU requirements, and the required memory space. I was able to get 14 instances running on a single laptop and all of the instances were busy replicating to each other. That's 14 database instances pretty busy all running under the restrictions of the memory restrictions and the CPU restrictions of a single laptop. > > And this is now all on a 512MB key! > > If you commute between a SOHO and a main office, why carry a laptop? > Just have your entire system on a memory fob and then boot from that ? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! > http://mobile.msn.com >
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > >> From: Tool <tool@thetool.com> >> Ian Michael Gumby wrote: >> >> > And this is why you go to the conference. ;-) >> > >> >> >> >> >> Why? >> >> If I took a week off to go to a conference I'd lose a week of billable, >> and also have to pay for lodging and the conference, all so that I can >> hang out with Informix geeks? >> >> Pretty expensive time that I cannot afford, and I'm not sure it's worth >> it until Informix really becomes a part of a bigger-than-3% market share. >> Until then I'll be more than happy to hear about yet another conference >> that was probably good, but does nothing for my bottom line. Glad to >> hear you had fun, but I'd rather spend my time off on a real vacation >> that doesn't involve a technology conference. >> >> -t- > > Now you see Timmy, this is why you'll never get ahead in life. Too much > negative energy. (Too much negative waves. - Kelly's Heroes) :-P > Thanks Gumpy for your sage advice. I'm sure if you knew how well I was doing you'd slap me for wasting a week of my billable on a conference that has dubious benefits at best. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Informix fan, but there has to be a huge payoff for attending a conference that will cost me a lot of money to attend. It's easy for a lot of people to dismiss the cost, these are people who don't have to pay their own way, or just don't seem to mind blowing the money. > Its hard to explain the value of the Informix community. You get out > what you put in. > Yeah I seem to remember what a thankless opportunity that was. > I come away from the conference thinking about ideas and things to try. > Yeah... and then I woke up. > Sometimes I feel sorry for guys like Daniel who'll never understand a > sense of community. > More like a sense of your community. I'm sure Daniel has plenty of people to keep him company. -- -- Informix Dynamic Server Database Engine -- http://www.informix.com --
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