Re: OT: DB Marketshare - Follow Up Question
Many thanks to everyone who have responded. Realize that I never intended this to be 'informix' centric. I don't expect Informix jobs to increase but to decrease as marketshare slips, Arrowhead continues, etc. I was looking at a broader picture - If as a slightly older IT person I have to 'reinvent' myself - where are the growth opportunities? Java and Websphere notwithstanding but developers can be rented offshore for half or less of the cost of an experience veteran. You can hire 2-3 recent college graduates, etc. With the Corporate America being so Cost Conscience I'm trying to point toward a higher road and the thought of being an IT manager forever (just to get the $$$) is revolting. SO...Anyone care to comment? Rob --- nobody <nobody@devnull.org> wrote: > Sigh... > > What you're facing isn't uncommon. > > IBM has taken up the arrowhead project and is > working towards > convergence. Where you see the most migrations are > in areas where a > business critical / mission critical app has the ISV > no longer > supporting Informix. > > This is due to the economic costs of the ISV having > to maintain an > unprofitable port. (Read no or minimal customers > asking for Informix). > > In these cases, the ISV ususally writes to the > lowest common denominator > so that they can easily support kludges like "O" and > SQLServer.... > > Those still on Informix will have a more stable > environment over time, > and there will be less consulting opportunities. > > IMHO, as an Informix consultant, the best thing to > do is to learn and > get certified on DB2 and you may also want to brush > up on Cloudscape. ;-) > > The benefits are that areas where Informix excelled > in technology will > be in DB2 and vice a versa. Again do a simple patent > search on both > companies and you will see a lot of interesting and > valuable research. > > Also, Rob, you should also cross train your folks > in Websphere, Java, > etc... > > But hey, what do I know? ;-) > > > Rob Vorbroker wrote: > > Brief Survey - To those of you who act as Informix > > Consultants, etc.: > > > > Are you seeing any change in the market? > > Are there more opportunities or less? > > In what areas are you seeing growth of > opportunities? > > Erosion of opportunities? > > What part of the world are you working in? > > > > I don't want this to turn into a doomsday thread > but I > > can't control that either. Just want to see if > the > > consulting market is expanding or contracting and > in > > what areas technically, geographically, etc. > > > > Rob Vorbroker > > > > ===== > > Rob Vorbroker Phone: > 513/336-8695 > > Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: > 513/336-6812 > > www.vorbroker.com > robv@vorbroker.com > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > sending to informix-list > ===== Rob Vorbroker Phone: 513/336-8695 Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: 513/336-6812 www.vorbroker.com robv@vorbroker.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ sending to informix-list
"Rob Vorbroker" <rvorbroker@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c9qhge$bmu$1@news.xmission.com... > I was looking at a broader picture - If as a slightly > older IT person I have to 'reinvent' myself - where > are the growth opportunities? I've heard that it's quite easy to get a cab licence in some US cities.
"Rob Vorbroker" <rvorbroker@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c9qhge$bmu$1@news.xmission.com... > > Many thanks to everyone who have responded. > I was looking at a broader picture - If as a slightly > older IT person I have to 'reinvent' myself - where > are the growth opportunities? As folks continue to retire.... probably COBOL and BAL.... ;-) M.P. > Java and Websphere > notwithstanding but developers can be rented offshore > for half or less of the cost of an experience veteran. > You can hire 2-3 recent college graduates, etc. With > the Corporate America being so Cost Conscience I'm > trying to point toward a higher road and the thought > of being an IT manager forever (just to get the $$$) > is revolting. > > SO...Anyone care to comment? > > Rob > --- nobody <nobody@devnull.org> wrote: > > Sigh... > > > > What you're facing isn't uncommon. > > > > IBM has taken up the arrowhead project and is > > working towards > > convergence. Where you see the most migrations are > > in areas where a > > business critical / mission critical app has the ISV > > no longer > > supporting Informix. > > > > This is due to the economic costs of the ISV having > > to maintain an > > unprofitable port. (Read no or minimal customers > > asking for Informix). > > > > In these cases, the ISV ususally writes to the > > lowest common denominator > > so that they can easily support kludges like "O" and > > SQLServer.... > > > > Those still on Informix will have a more stable > > environment over time, > > and there will be less consulting opportunities. > > > > IMHO, as an Informix consultant, the best thing to > > do is to learn and > > get certified on DB2 and you may also want to brush > > up on Cloudscape. ;-) > > > > The benefits are that areas where Informix excelled > > in technology will > > be in DB2 and vice a versa. Again do a simple patent > > search on both > > companies and you will see a lot of interesting and > > valuable research. > > > > Also, Rob, you should also cross train your folks > > in Websphere, Java, > > etc... > > > > But hey, what do I know? ;-) > > > > > > Rob Vorbroker wrote: > > > Brief Survey - To those of you who act as Informix > > > Consultants, etc.: > > > > > > Are you seeing any change in the market? > > > Are there more opportunities or less? > > > In what areas are you seeing growth of > > opportunities? > > > Erosion of opportunities? > > > What part of the world are you working in? > > > > > > I don't want this to turn into a doomsday thread > > but I > > > can't control that either. Just want to see if > > the > > > consulting market is expanding or contracting and > > in > > > what areas technically, geographically, etc. > > > > > > Rob Vorbroker > > > > > > ===== > > > Rob Vorbroker Phone: > > 513/336-8695 > > > Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: > > 513/336-6812 > > > www.vorbroker.com > > robv@vorbroker.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > sending to informix-list > > > > > ===== > Rob Vorbroker Phone: 513/336-8695 > Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: 513/336-6812 > www.vorbroker.com robv@vorbroker.com > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > sending to informix-list
if IT manager revolts you, how about contracting as an IT strategist Turn up, get paid $$$$$$ for 3 months, tell them a load of bollocks about portals, CRM and ERP, and then leave without having to implement anything. Sounds like the ideal IT job!! "Madison Pruet" <mpruet@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<Ze7wc.51793$Ly.27110@attbi_s01>... > "Rob Vorbroker" <rvorbroker@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c9qhge$bmu$1@news.xmission.com... > > > > Many thanks to everyone who have responded. > > I was looking at a broader picture - If as a slightly > > older IT person I have to 'reinvent' myself - where > > are the growth opportunities? > > As folks continue to retire.... probably COBOL and BAL.... ;-) > > M.P. > > > > Java and Websphere > > notwithstanding but developers can be rented offshore > > for half or less of the cost of an experience veteran. > > You can hire 2-3 recent college graduates, etc. With > > the Corporate America being so Cost Conscience I'm > > trying to point toward a higher road and the thought > > of being an IT manager forever (just to get the $$$) > > is revolting. > > > > SO...Anyone care to comment? > > > > Rob > > --- nobody <nobody@devnull.org> wrote: > > > Sigh... > > > > > > What you're facing isn't uncommon. > > > > > > IBM has taken up the arrowhead project and is > > > working towards > > > convergence. Where you see the most migrations are > > > in areas where a > > > business critical / mission critical app has the ISV > > > no longer > > > supporting Informix. > > > > > > This is due to the economic costs of the ISV having > > > to maintain an > > > unprofitable port. (Read no or minimal customers > > > asking for Informix). > > > > > > In these cases, the ISV ususally writes to the > > > lowest common denominator > > > so that they can easily support kludges like "O" and > > > SQLServer.... > > > > > > Those still on Informix will have a more stable > > > environment over time, > > > and there will be less consulting opportunities. > > > > > > IMHO, as an Informix consultant, the best thing to > > > do is to learn and > > > get certified on DB2 and you may also want to brush > > > up on Cloudscape. ;-) > > > > > > The benefits are that areas where Informix excelled > > > in technology will > > > be in DB2 and vice a versa. Again do a simple patent > > > search on both > > > companies and you will see a lot of interesting and > > > valuable research. > > > > > > Also, Rob, you should also cross train your folks > > > in Websphere, Java, > > > etc... > > > > > > But hey, what do I know? ;-) > > > > > > > > > Rob Vorbroker wrote: > > > > Brief Survey - To those of you who act as Informix > > > > Consultants, etc.: > > > > > > > > Are you seeing any change in the market? > > > > Are there more opportunities or less? > > > > In what areas are you seeing growth of > opportunities? > > > > Erosion of opportunities? > > > > What part of the world are you working in? > > > > > > > > I don't want this to turn into a doomsday thread > but I > > > > can't control that either. Just want to see if > the > > > > consulting market is expanding or contracting and > in > > > > what areas technically, geographically, etc. > > > > > > > > Rob Vorbroker > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > Rob Vorbroker Phone: > 513/336-8695 > > > > Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: > 513/336-6812 > > > > www.vorbroker.com > robv@vorbroker.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > sending to informix-list > > > > > > > > > ===== > > Rob Vorbroker Phone: 513/336-8695 > > Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: 513/336-6812 > > www.vorbroker.com robv@vorbroker.com > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > sending to informix-list