Does anyone read the e-mails from [mailto:db2@news.db2mag.com]

Hey! Why is it that there are 5 articles and 4 of the 5 are about DB2? Hmmm? I mean not to overlook the obvious [mailto:db2@news.db2mag.com] domain name. It looks like there's a squatter on dbmag.com but I'm sure cmp could come up with another name for db2mag without losing branding. Yet I digress. The point I was trying to make is that there is still 80% content on DB2 and 1 article on IDS? What, no one from IBM is writing to sing the praises about the new and improved features in IDS 11.5? No one giving an example of ER for uptime? C'mon what is IBM really doing besides paying lip service to the Informix faithfull? Oh but wait. I'm being labled as a conspiracy nut. You be the judge. I'll just keep working at my client keeping the world safe from people who drive in to lakes and ponds. -G _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008

Here is a post by Joe Lumbley nearly 6 yrs ago Rob, you're right on the money. There's no future in Informix. Long term, Informix is dead. Short term, there'll be lots of conversion and legacy business. At first I attributed the lack of marketing to a lack of understanding by IBM. Then I attributed it to slow information transfer within IBM from the top of the pyramid to the bottom. Now I realize that it's their strategy, it's deeply imbedded in IBM, and it won't change. They still view Informix as a competitor to DB2. I actually had an IBM sales manager tell me at lunch on 9/11 that "Maybe you just need to accept the fact that IBM doesn't want Informix to succeed". I think I ticked him off enough that he told me the truth. This is as good a time as any to become TRULY database agnostic. Personally, I loved the Informix technology. I think we all did. And like any kind of love, it's based on emotion, not on reality. It limits our opportunities. So what happens when your first love is forcibly taken away? Do you blindly commit to another girlfriend, or do you play the field? I think it's time for all of us to play the database field. Become familiar with Oracle, DB2, SQL Server. Be prepared to earn a buck anywhere the opportunity arises, no matter what database they use. Things have changed. It's not love anymore. It's just business. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.informix/msg/a4113d9fe9ce51a6?dmode=source

Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > Hey! > > Why is it that there are 5 articles and 4 of the 5 are about DB2? > Hmmm? > > I mean not to overlook the obvious [mailto:db2@news.db2mag.com] domain name. > It looks like there's a squatter on dbmag.com but I'm sure cmp could > come up with another name for db2mag without losing branding. > > Yet I digress. > > The point I was trying to make is that there is still 80% content on DB2 > and 1 article on IDS? > What, no one from IBM is writing to sing the praises about the new and > improved features in IDS 11.5? > > No one giving an example of ER for uptime? > > C'mon what is IBM really doing besides paying lip service to the > Informix faithfull? > > Oh but wait. I'm being labled as a conspiracy nut. You be the judge. > I'll just keep working at my client keeping the world safe from people > who drive in to lakes and ponds. > > -G > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. IM anytime > you're online. > <http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008>; I always had the idea that in Portugal half of us are doing the wrong thing and the other half is criticizing the first half (and that these halves were interchanging). I now see that this is not a country specific issue... The main difference here is that the halves seem static... I will not contradict you in your main point: IBM database magazine still has mostly DB2 content. But you can find IDS, IMS, DB2 in Z/OS, Data Studio etc. in there... Why didn't you mentioned the mail from July 24? Why didn't you mentioned the mail from July 22? Why didn't you mentioned the mail from June 24? ... All this had DB2, Informix and other articles like IBM Education, Data Studio etc. Why don't you reference the cases where IBMers are writing about Informix? And other people like Eric Herber... Maybe because it doesn't fit into your (using your words) "conspiracy"? When someone like Eric criticizes IBM I look at it carefully... and with great respect. Because he earn my respect because os what he's doing. But you? Aren't you happy with the way things are going for you? You left the "bad guys"... So why don't you go on with your live? It's fantastic to see the passion (good and bad) around Informix... And it's been like this forever (at least since when I started working with it). For the people that doesn't receive the email: ************************************* 1. The Celko SQL challenge SQL expert Joe Celko challenges you to find a better approach to calculating Fibonacci numbers than the one proposed by recursive SQL genius Robert Mala in a recent IDUG presentation. 2. From the blogs: DB2 9 DBA certification Try your hand at sample questions from the man who wrote the book on the DB2 9 DBA exam. 3. DB2 birthday parties Take part in one of several parties going on around the country to celebrate DB2's 25 years of innovation. 4. Tech term of the day Your knowledge of French (or even etiquette) won't help you figure out the tech meaning of the term RSVP. But the Tech Encyclopedia will. 5. New Informix e-book * Informix guru Lester Knutsen explains how to get IDS 11 up to full speed. Now... 80% DB2?!!!!! Are you doing your math on Oracle?! At the most, 60%, but the first it's arguable... Regards, -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently...

Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > I mean not to overlook the obvious [mailto:db2@news.db2mag.com] domain name. > It looks like there's a squatter on dbmag.com but I'm sure cmp could > come up with another name for db2mag without losing branding. Well, DB2 Mag has been renamed, to reflect its broader reach a few months ago. Presumably any remnant db2mag references will be purged over time just like the roll over to "Information Management" took a while. http://www.ibmdatabasemag.com/ -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab

On Jul 31, 6:15 am, Serge Rielau <srie...@ca.ibm.com> wrote: > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > I mean not to overlook the obvious [mailto:d...@news.db2mag.com] > domain name.> It looks like there's a squatter on dbmag.com but I'm sure cmp could > > come up with another name for db2mag without losing branding. > > Well, DB2 Mag has been renamed, to reflect its broader reach a few > months ago. > Presumably any remnant db2mag references will be purged over time just > like the roll over to "Information Management" took a while.http://www.ibmdatabasemag.com/ > > -- > Serge Rielau > DB2 Solutions Development > IBM Toronto Lab So those in IM are dragging their feet? Nothing new there. Seems that they can't face the inevitable truth that IDS is still a better product and that Janet's last mantra before she left the building "Lead with DB2 and then if all else fails, mention IDS" is still the message of the day. Now where are those IDS benchmarks? Perhaps there's something wrong with them? Like they're too good? ;-) (No, I don't know anything, not even rumors. I'm just left to speculate on why we're told that there will be benchmarks and then none.) I mean is DB2 ported to those new Cell based blade boards? If not, then there's no competition. Today's IBM isn't the IBM of the 60's and 70's. :-( Maybe Serge, you should write an article for DB2Mag on IDS? But hey! What do I know? I'm just like Joe. I'm database agnostic, just an app developer / architect. ;-) -G

On Jul 30, 1:42 pm, Fernando Nunes <domusonl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I always had the idea that in Portugal half of us are doing the wrong thing and > the other half is criticizing the first half (and that these halves were > interchanging). > Sounds like a personal problem to me. ;-) > I now see that this is not a country specific issue... The main difference here > is that the halves seem static... > LOL... Well this is what you get when you globalize the workforce. I mean some places are behind the times. Like watching OTC rant about setting up a disaster recovery plan. I haven't had to do one since '96 for a client. But then I was in charge of their midrange systems. Then it was a hot topic in '01, and now again in '08? At least in the UK. I guess the EU is catching up to us paranoid yanks. ;-) > I will not contradict you in your main point: IBM database magazine still has > mostly DB2 content. But you can find IDS, IMS, DB2 in Z/OS, Data Studio etc. in > there... > Oh gee wilikers mr. wizard I feel so great full that such a luminary like yourself concedes the point of my post. DB2 means DB2 on AS/400 aka i-Series, DB2 on OS-390/zOS and even Linux on the mainframe . I'm shocked that you're interpreting DB2 to mean just distributed. Tsk Tsk. Didn't you get Janet's memo that DB2 on the mainframe and as400 is *practically* the same product that runs in the distributed environment? (That was put out circa 2001-2002 time frame. I was sure that the news would have hit EMEA by now! (Note the sarcasm) IMS? Wow. I thought Kim Skarda's group got all dem IMS folks to convert to DB2... ;-) (Again, Note the sarcasm and its an inside joke) What's really interesting junior is that I could care less what you think or how you respond. My target audience isn't you or Serge. There are a few people who don't post but do read what's being said on C.D.I. And of course, their pay grade is much higher than yours. So why don't you and a couple of other slogs sing the virtues of IDS in non IBM forums? I see Billy is now doing a blog on Eric's site. Why not you? After all, you work with IDS all day? Moi? I'm being paid to write code in Java, Python and a little bit of PL/SQL for a client who's an Oracle shop that has their heads in the clouds now. (You figure *that* one out.) I'm also busy on other projects, including one where I've got to learn PostgresSQL since its free and does what the client wants right out of the box. I would have to say that the reason I'm probably more of a skeptic is that I've seen this run around time and time again. Going all the way back to the early 90's. But hey! What do I know? At my client, I let it slip that I can write ksh scripts and now I'm being hounded by everyone to help fix their problems. After all they're just Java developers. ;-) -G

Ian Michael Gumby said: > On Jul 30, 1:42 pm, Fernando Nunes <domusonl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I always had the idea that in Portugal half of us are doing the wrong >> thing and >> the other half is criticizing the first half (and that these halves were >> interchanging). >> > Sounds like a personal problem to me. ;-) > >> I now see that this is not a country specific issue... The main >> difference here >> is that the halves seem static... >> > LOL... Well this is what you get when you globalize the workforce. > I mean some places are behind the times. Like watching OTC rant about > setting up a disaster recovery plan. > I haven't had to do one since '96 for a client. But then I was in > charge of their midrange systems. > Then it was a hot topic in '01, and now again in '08? At least in the > UK. I guess the EU is catching up to us paranoid yanks. ;-) Perhaps I'm just involved with more new sites than you are. Maybe the EU is leading the way over you paranoid yanks in *that* respect. :op -- Bye now, Obnoxio http://obotheclown.blogspot.com/