Re: It's incredible

} I find it incredible that developers actually try to defend INFORMIX as } if by some mixed up loyalty. Anyone that has developed (or tryed to) a } major application in INFORMIX will tell you that they have been hit by } bug after bug in the dev' sys', not to count the core bugs in the SQL engine. } There was even a serious bug in the 4.0 SE engine that ment NULL values } were not returned properly & required changing the table schemas to NON NULL } The 4.1 release corrected this but did not mention it (keep it under the } carpet boys). I spent weeks trying to correct this, thinking it was my } fault, until I got 4.1 & the problem disappeared. INFORMIX is too far away } from the user base. They have even got rid of most of there distributers. It } would be nice if INFORMIX would at least list their products shortcomings } or tell their customers of any serious known bugs. They dont do this & I } can not forgive them for it. The amazing OUTER JOIN bug is so serious } that I can't believe people just take it in their stride. Someone said - } it is core code & probably will never be fixed - b-locks - we pay a lot } of money for SQl - fix it. I'm sorry but I have no simpathy INFORMIX } shpuld sort out MAJOR problems like this !!!! I have wriiten 200,000 lines } of INFORMIX code & half (estimate) of my time has been spent getting } around INFORMIX 4GL & SQL bugs. } Anyone had similar experience. } Regards } Chris "seize that engine" Moore } Hi all, Even though I have not faced the bugs mentioned in this note, I do find just incredible that people say and think that INFORMIX 4GL is a good product. I have one year of experience with INFORMIX 4GL and two with PROGRESS and I have found that INFORMIX 4GL does not empower but instead sets the programmer back. INFORMIX 4GL is not a true fourth generation. A programmer should not have to worry about creating forms to open windows. Also, field data integrity could be set up in the data dictionary not in the program code. Report generation should be something easy to do and not a major problem solved using perl or other languages. A fourth generation language, in other words a real tool, can do many things for the programmer and INFORMIX 4GL just does not do. Just my honest opinion. Jairo@ans.net