RE: Looks Like The Party Is Over In Menlo (2nd try)

From: William Rice <ricew@operamail.com> > >We had over a 100 boxes with informix on them with automated monitoring >software. The systems were not real big, and the applications evolved >quite >slowly. There were some boxes I logged into maybe four times in my >two years with the company. > >I am in no way commenting on whether or not one should use SE, just >addressing the question on a hands off instance of IDS. > >Will > >P.S. a lot of time was spent writing the automated monitoring scripts, so >this definitely required full time knowledgable DBA's(wish I had been in >that category ....), but they were completely hands off. So if something went wrong, you didn't have to do *anything*? If you had an AF, everything would just sort itself out? Very impressive. > >===== Original Message From "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> >===== > >From: "smooth1" <smooth1@iclway.co.uk> > >> > >>Obnoxio The Clown wrote in message <8n8ddm$8g6$1@news.xmission.com>... > >> >> Hence, my backups are corrupt, I can't handle crashes, kill errant > >> >> users and I won't know about corruption until someone spots > >> >> that the system is producing crap data (if this gets spotted at > >>all!). > >> >> > >> >> SE is out of data in terms of data integrity and should be dropped > >> >> in favour of IDS Workgroup Edition. > >> > > >> >That's all fine and dandy, David, but what about small sites who can't > >> >afford a DBA and just want a simple database platform? > >> > > >> > >> Why does online need a DBA? You can > >> > >> automate start and shutdown > >> automate backups with onbar and ISM. > > > >And you can automate the price difference, too? Is there anybody out >there, > >please tell me if there is, who has a totally hands off IDS instance? >I've > >*never* seen one, and I've seen plenty of IDS sites, believe me. > > > >> If online panics then that is only to stop data corruption. > >> > >> Are you saying it is ok for your customer to have undetected > >> corrupt data? > > > >Oh, come on, David. > > > >> Please let me know the names of the customer for whom this is ok > >> and I'll pass onto them the good news. > > > >OK, smarty pants. Now they have an AF. Now what do they do? And how long > >will they be down for without an inhouse DBA? > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >------------------------------------------------------------ >This e-mail has been sent to you courtesy of OperaMail, as a free >service from >Opera Software, makers of the award-winning Web Browser, Opera. Visit us >at >http://www.opera.com/ or our portal at: http://www.myopera.com/ Your free >e-mail >account is waiting at: http://www.operamail.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------ > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com