SIS: So this is how IBM trolls newsgroups ?
Gee Splinter, its no wonder you can't trust IBM when they speak: On Aug 22, you wrote: "Being a relative newbie to this newsgroup, my impression is that Gumby has always "had a grip"...just not on anything of substantial substance or SIZE. (Wonder what he does with his OTHER hand and 3 fingers)...does anyone wonder if Gumball has any clients? He writes so much out here that one would wonder. Splintter - Informix-from-Oracle transplantee" And now you claim: "I still work IBM. And unlike you, I not fired from Informix and IBM. Fellow workers in this part of country know how you left of IBM. And they all agree it wasn't choice of you." Unfortunately I don't know who you talked to. And yes, leaving IBM was my choice. It just goes to show that the people you talk to don't know all the facts. Like I said, I waited too long, I should have left right after eBU, but that's another story.... LOL. Usually sock puppets show up when they want to direct the flow of conversation away from topic that they don't want people to talk about. In this case, the conversation dealt with the lack of IDS sale being lead by the sales team. Last I heard, most of the deals for new customers is coming from the resellers and vars and not the sales team. What this says is that the community is keeping the product alive. Not IBM S&D. Oh and I almost forgot someone once said that IBM's S&D doesn't want to sell IDS because they make more money off of the Oracle Services they sell. I kid you not. But hey! What do I know? -G _________________________________________________________________ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be—learn how to burn a DVD with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > Oh and I almost forgot someone once said that IBM's S&D doesn't want to > sell IDS because they make more money off of the Oracle Services they > sell. I kid you not. Why would anyone think you are kidding? Perhaps it is more palatable when you say it then when I do. Perhaps those same people ought to look at where the sales of new z10s are coming from while they're doing that research. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
On Aug 26, 5:59 pm, DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org> wrote: > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > Oh and I almost forgot someone once said that IBM's S&D doesn't want to > > sell IDS because they make more money off of the Oracle Services they > > sell. I kid you not. > > Why would anyone think you are kidding? Perhaps it is more palatable > when you say it then when I do. > Well, what that really means is that you need to have a staff of 3 or more DBAs to manage a fair number of instances. With IDS, you need only 2. Why 2? Because that's the least number of DBAs that you can have due to "hit by truck" risks. ;-) The comment was said by someone that many in this group know. He was repeating a quote from an IBMer, or so he says. Now while its true, one can make more money doing Oracle work, its mainly because well, the quality of Oracle DBAs and developers is staggeringly bad. But the truth is that the statement is more of and excuse or a cop- out. If a Jeff Boudreaux could sell Sears IDS back in the early 90s, (Or was that Dan Scanell?) then anyone can sell IDS to customers. (Yeah, you have to go way back to know those names and be familiar with the office in Chicago. ;-) But hey! What do I know? I'm just a guy who's attracting sock puppets who's schmeke is smaller than their pinkies. ;-) -G