Re[2]: Recruiters tired me: How about comp.databases.informi

I don't want to drag this string out forever, but.... Coming from a recruiter that does attempt to read the mailings here..... Of course, this is YOUR place, and the way I look at it, if someone barged into the middle of MY conversation I'd be a little hacked as well. It is those who post repeatedly without keeping this in mind that bother even me, one of the "headhunters". But here is the deal: You people have skills high in demand. You keep abreast of the emerging technical stuff, and we keep abreast of the money stuff. To me, it is highly symbiotic. I know that I have some job opportunities where I can basically write the pay rate, that many would never know about unless I got the word out. I know I've been guilty in the past of stepping over the boundaries, and I stop doing what I was doing whenever someone lets me know that I have, but in the immortal words of Rodney King: "Can't we all just get along?" A number of the other unmoderated groups allow posting without any grief as long as you announce a posting as such.....than, as Mikey put it: "You can throw away whatever you don't want" Brian Batts Trying to comprehend Informix ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Recruiters tired me: How about comp.databases.informix.j Author: Jay Jacobs <jjacobs@starnet.lenfest.com> at Internet Date: 8/23/96 10:49 AM The 'control' thing is not a bad idea ... BUT, I'd like to add something else to think about. IF, and I say IF, I want to change jobs, the 1st thing I ask myself is, "Who can I go to to see if there's a job?" The answer is folks like US! In other words, all of US are the 1st to know when a job position opens. So, (what it is I'd like you to think about OTHER than recruiters is), wouldn't you like to be able to post a 'JOB WANTED' mail in this news group??? It has a lot of benefits like saving YOU lots of search time, like saving recruiter $$$$ (and maybe ask for some of that as a 'signing' bonus). And perhaps if you don't have a job maybe you can help by responding w/a ctc as to someone who does, etc., etc.. From my perspective, (and this is a personal one), I don't mind the head-hunter stuff. It's that crap like the $5.00 thing, and the XXX thing I got the other day that needs to be 'controlled'. Hey, just like the pony express, my address is public. I just throw away what I don't want. The recruiter stuff I can live with ... Just my opinion. Have a nice day. j Mike Segel <mikey@segel.com> wrote: >Alexander Ponomarenko wrote: >> >> Dear All! >> Some time ago I don't knew about meaning of words "Opportunity", >> "Jobs", "Recruiter", "Positions", etc. Now I know... Very Well... >[SNIP] >> How about creation of comp.databases.informix.jobs newsgroup? >> (I will never subscribe to it!!!) >[SNIP] >Whoops! Here we go again! >Sigh. >Even if we create a second group, the recruiters, who for the most >part don't even read this group , will still put >their ads here anyways. >Since we are an unmoderated newsgroup, we really can't stop them >from posting to this group. >Two thoughts from previous discussions are as follows: >1) Create / Modify a charter which would be posted once a month > which specifies what is considered proper postings. > By doing this, we can then crack down on these guys until > they get the message. >Since we do have the IIUG (International Informix Users Group), I think >that they are an excellent body to ratify such a policy. >(Yeah, see, I didn't sleep through the Birds of a Feather session. ;-) >2) Create a space which they can post. >Steve Stubbe (stubbe@madtech.com) has created an area where people >can post about positions that they have open or want to find. >If Informix wanted to, I'm sure they could set up a site on their >sever to allow those to post their resume, or recruiters to post >their current openings. Hmmm maybe use some of their *new* web >technology to automate this? That would help to create a standard >form which even they could use to recruit from. >For those who don't know, Steve hosts the Chicago Area's Home Page. >[OK, so its a subtle plug for you to check it out! ;-] >Of course I really hate those recruiters who have to post the same >position every other day since no one has responded to them. ;-) >Will it ever end? >-Mikey ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from rmy.rmy.emory.edu by mail.systemone.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.8d for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1996Aug23.104928.1818.9433; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:49:28 GMT Received: (from ilist@localhost) by rmy.rmy.emory.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA12264 for brian_batts@systemone.com; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:46:47 -0400 (EDT) From: jjacobs@starnet.lenfest.com (Jay Jacobs) Message-Id: <4vk6be$m1a@nn1.fast.net> Subject: Re: Recruiters tired me: How about comp.databases.informix.jobs? Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:57:13 GMT Reply-To: jjacobs@starnet.lenfest.com (Jay Jacobs) Organization: FASTNET(tm) PA/NJ/DE Internet Sender: informix-list-owner@rmy.emory.edu To: informix-list@rmy.emory.edu X-Informix-List-To: brian_batts@systemone.com X-Informix-List-Id: <news.27381>