Re: informix market share
A pricing/positioning debate rather than a technical problem: after a claim that IDS list price is ~20% above Oracle Enterprise Edition, Daniel Morgan argued IDS is really comparable to Oracle Standard Edition and asked for a feature-by-feature comparison. Madison Pruet countered that IDS bundles HDR and Enterprise Replication, whose Oracle counterparts (Data Guard, Streams) plus unlimited CPU support are EE-only, so EE is the fair comparison. No actual comparison was produced; the thread trailed off into corrections of his EE/SE/SS acronym mix-up, so no conclusion was reached.
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Madison Pruet wrote: > "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message > news:1133072683.547964@yasure... > >>xiaoxin wrote: >> >>>The list price of IDS is about 20% more than oracle EE. No one is >>>more expensive than oracle, when it comes to database. >> >>But wouldn't a more accurate comparison of IDS to Oracle be with >>Oracle's Standard Edition? > > > Not really. IDS has both HDR and Enterprise Replication as a base part of > the product. Last time I checked, the Oracle equivalent of IDS/ER would be > streams replication, not Oracle standard replication. And the last time I > checked Standard Edition didn't include Streams Replication. But there is a lot more to Oracle EE than just Steams. My question was ... 'did anyone do an actual feature comparison to see which was the most appropriate?'. I see little that would convince me IDS is not a closer match to Oracle's Standard Edition. Does anyone have a feature-by-feature comparison that would indicate otherwise? -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message news:1133128547.820245@yasure... > Madison Pruet wrote: > > "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message > > news:1133072683.547964@yasure... > > > >>xiaoxin wrote: > >> > >>>The list price of IDS is about 20% more than oracle EE. No one is > >>>more expensive than oracle, when it comes to database. > >> > >>But wouldn't a more accurate comparison of IDS to Oracle be with > >>Oracle's Standard Edition? > > > > > > Not really. IDS has both HDR and Enterprise Replication as a base part of > > the product. Last time I checked, the Oracle equivalent of IDS/ER would be > > streams replication, not Oracle standard replication. And the last time I > > checked Standard Edition didn't include Streams Replication. > > But there is a lot more to Oracle EE than just Steams. My question was > ... 'did anyone do an actual feature comparison to see which was the > most appropriate?'. I see little that would convince me IDS is not a > closer match to Oracle's Standard Edition. > > Does anyone have a feature-by-feature comparison that would indicate > otherwise? If Oracle EE could 1) run on more than 4 CPUs, 2) included DataGuard (IDS HDR), 3) included Streams Replication (IDS ER), ... - then it would be fair to say that IDS should be compared to Oracle EE. > -- > Daniel A. Morgan > http://www.psoug.org > damorgan@x.washington.edu > (replace x with u to respond)
> > Does anyone have a feature-by-feature comparison that would indicate > > otherwise? > > If Oracle EE could 1) run on more than 4 CPUs, 2) included DataGuard (IDS > HDR), 3) included Streams Replication (IDS ER), ... - then it would be fair > to say that IDS should be compared to Oracle EE. Opps - mixed up my EE with my SS... ;-) > > > > > > -- > > Daniel A. Morgan > > http://www.psoug.org > > damorgan@x.washington.edu > > (replace x with u to respond) > >
Madison Pruet wrote: > "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message > news:1133128547.820245@yasure... > >>Madison Pruet wrote: >> >>>"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message >>>news:1133072683.547964@yasure... >>> >>> >>>>xiaoxin wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>The list price of IDS is about 20% more than oracle EE. No one is >>>>>more expensive than oracle, when it comes to database. >>>> >>>>But wouldn't a more accurate comparison of IDS to Oracle be with >>>>Oracle's Standard Edition? >>> >>> >>>Not really. IDS has both HDR and Enterprise Replication as a base part > > of > >>>the product. Last time I checked, the Oracle equivalent of IDS/ER would > > be > >>>streams replication, not Oracle standard replication. And the last time > > I > >>>checked Standard Edition didn't include Streams Replication. >> >>But there is a lot more to Oracle EE than just Steams. My question was >>... 'did anyone do an actual feature comparison to see which was the >>most appropriate?'. I see little that would convince me IDS is not a >>closer match to Oracle's Standard Edition. >> >>Does anyone have a feature-by-feature comparison that would indicate >>otherwise? > > > If Oracle EE could 1) run on more than 4 CPUs, 2) included DataGuard (IDS > HDR), 3) included Streams Replication (IDS ER), ... - then it would be fair > to say that IDS should be compared to Oracle EE. > > > > > >>-- >>Daniel A. Morgan >>http://www.psoug.org >>damorgan@x.washington.edu >>(replace x with u to respond) I think you meant SE. EE runs on an unlimited number of processors and includes Streams and DataGuard. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
> > I think you meant SE. EE runs on an unlimited number of processors and > includes Streams and DataGuard. Geesh - Oracle has almost as many anagrams as IBM. ;-) > -- > Daniel A. Morgan > http://www.psoug.org > damorgan@x.washington.edu > (replace x with u to respond)
"Madison Pruet" <mpruet@comcast.net> wrote in news:zaCdnbj28tCCqxfeRVn- tg@comcast.com: > >> >> I think you meant SE. EE runs on an unlimited number of processors and >> includes Streams and DataGuard. > > Geesh - Oracle has almost as many anagrams as IBM. ;-) ANAGRAMS? I think not. ACRONYMS? perhaps
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:14:43 -0600, Madison Pruet wrote: > >> > Does anyone have a feature-by-feature comparison that would indicate >> > otherwise? >> >> If Oracle EE could 1) run on more than 4 CPUs, 2) included DataGuard (IDS >> HDR), 3) included Streams Replication (IDS ER), ... - then it would be > fair >> to say that IDS should be compared to Oracle EE. > > Opps - mixed up my EE with my SS... ;-) Perhaps you mixed it up with SE (Standard Edition). The SS is definitely marching to the Microsoft tune, not the Oracle one. -- Hans Forbrich Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting mailto: Fuzzy.GreyBeard_at_gmail.com *** Top posting replies guarantees I won't respond. ***