Re: Informix WGE with IBM DB2 Gold Bundle
Guess what. IBM Canada has confirmed today that replication can not be used with WGE, nor the CPU limit to more than two. To quote them "according to their worldwide licensing policy, no replication with WGE". And they have the nerve to ask "why are you moving away from Informix". Ravi ps: They also said "we offer all those in DB2 WGE" "rkusenet" <rkusenet@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:2ju31hF152c2uU1@uni-berlin.de... > Looks like there is some hope for Informix in my company. I am proposing > DB2 Gold Bundle for Workgroup edition so that we can switch to DB2 when > we are ready. However there is a confusion in WGE features. > > Informix WGE can only run on max 2 CPU > DB2 WGE = 4 CPU > > Informix WGE = No replication of any kind. > DB2 WGE = Replication supported. > > If Gold Bundle gives the customer the option to switch to DB2 any time, > shouldn't they have the same CPU limitation. Otherwise appropriate hardware > has to be purchased. > > IBM Canada is saying that they have received this compliant from other > customers and are working with IBM Data Management for reworking Informix > limitation and *most likely* it will be made same as DB2 WGE. > > At $12,000 Canadian Dollars per CPU, on two 4 CPU boxes (Linux or Windows) > with HDR replication we can have a cost effective high availability solution > for just under $100,000. We can't think about it with enterprise server > where it costs $70,000/cpu. > > Without replication of course, there is no HA. In other words goodbye Informix/DB2. > > Does anyone else knows about WGE. > > Thanks. > > ravi > >
"rkusenet" <rkusenet@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:2kbg43Fege4U1@uni-berlin.de... > Guess what. IBM Canada has confirmed today that replication can not be > used with WGE, nor the CPU limit to more than two. To quote them > "according to their worldwide licensing policy, no replication with WGE". > > And they have the nerve to ask "why are you moving away from Informix". > > Ravi > ps: They also said "we offer all those in DB2 WGE" And DB2 has a single code base across all platforms!
It's my understanding that replication is an up-and-coming feature for DB2 in Stinger, modeled after Informix HADR: ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/data/db2/stinger/stingerwhatsnew.pdf ( pages 3 and 33 ) Also, you can run a simple search on www.ibm.com by typing in the word 'stinger'. Lots of information. The real question is whether you really need database-driven replication, but that's probably another thread. At any rate, you should pay particular attention to the differences in DB2 WGE vs EEE. "rkusenet" <rkusenet@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:2kbg43Fege4U1@uni-berlin.de... > Guess what. IBM Canada has confirmed today that replication can not be > used with WGE, nor the CPU limit to more than two. To quote them > "according to their worldwide licensing policy, no replication with WGE". > > And they have the nerve to ask "why are you moving away from Informix". > > Ravi > ps: They also said "we offer all those in DB2 WGE" > > "rkusenet" <rkusenet@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:2ju31hF152c2uU1@uni-berlin.de... > > Looks like there is some hope for Informix in my company. I am proposing > > DB2 Gold Bundle for Workgroup edition so that we can switch to DB2 when > > we are ready. However there is a confusion in WGE features. > > > > Informix WGE can only run on max 2 CPU > > DB2 WGE = 4 CPU > > > > Informix WGE = No replication of any kind. > > DB2 WGE = Replication supported. > > > > If Gold Bundle gives the customer the option to switch to DB2 any time, > > shouldn't they have the same CPU limitation. Otherwise appropriate hardware > > has to be purchased. > > > > IBM Canada is saying that they have received this compliant from other > > customers and are working with IBM Data Management for reworking Informix > > limitation and *most likely* it will be made same as DB2 WGE. > > > > At $12,000 Canadian Dollars per CPU, on two 4 CPU boxes (Linux or Windows) > > with HDR replication we can have a cost effective high availability solution > > for just under $100,000. We can't think about it with enterprise server > > where it costs $70,000/cpu. > > > > Without replication of course, there is no HA. In other words goodbye Informix/DB2. > > > > Does anyone else knows about WGE. > > > > Thanks. > > > > ravi > > > > > >
"Data Goob" <datagoob@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:kz2Ec.73970$HT5.46827@fe43.usenetserver.com... > It's my understanding that replication is an up-and-coming feature > for DB2 in Stinger, modeled after Informix HADR: DB2 is still not as good as Informix in HADR. For e.g., in Stinger the secondary server can not be running at all. It will be in cold state. > The real question is whether you really need database-driven replication, > but that's probably another thread. We want to use replication for HA, instead of clustering. There is an added benefit of some quasi load balancing by directing all queries to the secondary server. What other choice we have. > At any rate, you should pay particular > attention to the differences in DB2 WGE vs EEE. At this time WGE will do fine for us.
rkusenet wrote: > Guess what. IBM Canada has confirmed today that replication can not be > used with WGE, nor the CPU limit to more than two. To quote them > "according to their worldwide licensing policy, no replication with WGE". Check again in a week or two. > And they have the nerve to ask "why are you moving away from Informix". > > Ravi > ps: They also said "we offer all those in DB2 WGE" > > "rkusenet" <rkusenet@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:2ju31hF152c2uU1@uni-berlin.de... > >>Looks like there is some hope for Informix in my company. I am proposing >>DB2 Gold Bundle for Workgroup edition so that we can switch to DB2 when >>we are ready. However there is a confusion in WGE features. >> >>Informix WGE can only run on max 2 CPU >>DB2 WGE = 4 CPU >> >>Informix WGE = No replication of any kind. >>DB2 WGE = Replication supported. >> >>If Gold Bundle gives the customer the option to switch to DB2 any time, >>shouldn't they have the same CPU limitation. Otherwise appropriate hardware >>has to be purchased. >> >>IBM Canada is saying that they have received this compliant from other >>customers and are working with IBM Data Management for reworking Informix >>limitation and *most likely* it will be made same as DB2 WGE. >> >>At $12,000 Canadian Dollars per CPU, on two 4 CPU boxes (Linux or Windows) >>with HDR replication we can have a cost effective high availability solution >>for just under $100,000. We can't think about it with enterprise server >>where it costs $70,000/cpu. >> >>Without replication of course, there is no HA. In other words goodbye Informix/DB2. >> >>Does anyone else knows about WGE. >> >>Thanks. >> >>ravi >> >> > > > -- Jonathan Leffler #include <disclaimer.h> Email: jleffler@earthlink.net, jleffler@us.ibm.com Guardian of DBD::Informix v2003.04 -- http://dbi.perl.org/