Database Job Survey
Not a troubleshooting thread: John Jensen announced a tool that scans misc.jobs.offered/contract postings and charts mentions of Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase, DB2, Informix, PowerBuilder, etc., and asked for feedback. Readers questioned why OS counts don't add up (he explained each posting can hit several keywords, so it measures 'interest' not openings), objected to calling Visual Basic a scripting language, and asked for historical trends and geographic/country breakdowns. He moved PowerBuilder from Databases to Languages, but said location data is free-form and present in under half of postings, so geography remained unimplemented; no other changes were recorded.
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I've set up a search engine to crunch the daily job listings from misc.jobs.offered and misc.jobs.contract. I'm hoping that with cross-postings and such they'll be a representative sample of the job market. I'm currently counting references to Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase, IBM DB2, Informix and Powerbuilder. I build a daily bar graph of the results: http://www.robojob.com/data.html I'd be interested in your feedback and suggestions. John
John Jensen wrote: > I've set up a search engine to crunch the daily job listings from > misc.jobs.offered and misc.jobs.contract. I'm hoping that with > cross-postings and such they'll be a representative sample of the job > market. I'm currently counting references to Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase, > IBM DB2, Informix and Powerbuilder. I build a daily bar graph of the > results: > > http://www.robojob.com/data.html > > I'd be interested in your feedback and suggestions. > > John under the operating systems tab, you list windows, windows95, windows NT etc. Does the first category, "windows" include all the others? if so, the numbers don't add up. also, your definitions; "Visual Basic is Microsoft's application scripting language. ". Visual Basic is not a scripting language, you may want to re-write some of your definitions.
It certainly tells me where the job market is. Do you have any plans for a geographic breakdown (state, city, ...)?
john <john@spam.com> wrote: : John Jensen wrote: : > http://www.robojob.com/data.html : under the operating systems tab, you list windows, windows95, windows NT : etc. Does the first category, "windows" include all the others? if so, : the numbers don't add up. Each of the names, windows, windows95, windows NT, and so on, is backed by a set of regular expressions. Whenever a paragraph contains one of the expressions, it counts as a hit (but never more than one). The idea is that this is really a "level of interest" thing. Consider the short paragraph below: "We are looking for a Windows programmer. Your task will be to develop Visual Basic applications for Windows 95/NT. Knowledge of UNIX a plus." This yields 1 hit for Windows, Windows 95, Windows NT, VM, and UNIX. Obviously, this is more a measure of what employers (or search firms) are interested in, than a strict measure of open requisitions. : also, your definitions; "Visual Basic is Microsoft's application scripting : language. ". : Visual Basic is not a scripting language, you may want to re-write some of : your definitions. I'm open to suggestions. In the case of VB, I was trying to get across the idea that it was used for application level programming, but isn't quite as down and dirty as something like C. John
In article <7n1v5k$ncj$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net> you wrote: : It certainly tells me where the job market is. Do you have any plans for a : geographic breakdown (state, city, ...)? Lots of ideas, so little time. I'd really like to do geography ... John
I believe it would be better if you could include some historical data (e.g. the result of last month or last year etc.) Jason In article <7n1tsi$s5$1@nnrp03.primenet.com>, John Jensen <jjens@primenet.com> wrote: > I've set up a search engine to crunch the daily job listings from > misc.jobs.offered and misc.jobs.contract. I'm hoping that with > cross-postings and such they'll be a representative sample of the job > market. I'm currently counting references to Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase, > IBM DB2, Informix and Powerbuilder. I build a daily bar graph of the > results: > > http://www.robojob.com/data.html > > I'd be interested in your feedback and suggestions. > > John > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
I found it most interesting that you have PowerBuilder listed under Databases rather than Computer Languages. Considering it goes head-to-head with the likes of VB and Delphi, shouldn't they be lumped together in the same category? steve [TeamSybase] John Jensen wrote: > > I've set up a search engine to crunch the daily job listings from > misc.jobs.offered and misc.jobs.contract. I'm hoping that with > cross-postings and such they'll be a representative sample of the job > market. I'm currently counting references to Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase, > IBM DB2, Informix and Powerbuilder. I build a daily bar graph of the > results: > > http://www.robojob.com/data.html > > I'd be interested in your feedback and suggestions. > > John
OK, it's moved. John Steve Katz [TeamSybase] <katz_s@jpmorgan.com> wrote: : I found it most interesting that you have PowerBuilder listed under : Databases rather than Computer Languages. Considering it goes : head-to-head with the likes of VB and Delphi, shouldn't they be lumped : together in the same category? : steve : [TeamSybase] : John Jensen wrote: : > : > I've set up a search engine to crunch the daily job listings from : > misc.jobs.offered and misc.jobs.contract. I'm hoping that with : > cross-postings and such they'll be a representative sample of the job : > market. I'm currently counting references to Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase, : > IBM DB2, Informix and Powerbuilder. I build a daily bar graph of the : > results: : > : > http://www.robojob.com/data.html : > : > I'd be interested in your feedback and suggestions. : > : > John
How About Country as Well, after all we don't all live & work in the States Charlie Briney wrote: > It certainly tells me where the job market is. Do you have any plans for a > geographic breakdown (state, city, ...)?
Well, some people are nice enough to use a "Location:" field, but it seems to be used a little less than half the time, and it's free form (You'd need a big database to group fields that just say "Surrey" in the UK). I'll see what I can do. John Keith Jamieson <pdkj02@email.mot.com> wrote: : How About Country as Well, after all we don't all live & work in the States : Charlie Briney wrote: : > It certainly tells me where the job market is. Do you have any plans for a : > geographic breakdown (state, city, ...)?
Appreciate the effort. It would be a nice to have and is not a must have for me. If it's only there half the time and in free-form, that makes it not only very difficult to collect, but it would also not give as good of a representation of the geographics that people will probably want.